Have you seen the photos of Gaza? Bridges in Iran etc … Tehran was covered in a layer of oil rain when they blew up the refinery. That’s plenty of cancer and illness for future generations.

Right but they can waste enough resources to prevent development catching up with them which is exactly what they are doing.

Who exactly is “you” ?

I guess our definitions of success are vastly different. I have Cuban friends and they left because the situation is intolerable due to the sanctions. Over 1m Cubans have left since the pandemic. I come from a country that was occupied for hundreds of years. Now our government is complicit with the occupiers. Venezuela just got usurped in an evening. Russia is a fascist shithole. Only China has managed to have any kind of coherent strategy to combat this by weaponising the greed that built the system against it. You see where I’m going with this. Having the weekend off isn’t a victory. It’s a bare minimum and not worth celebrating. Women are still treated like shit. Success isn’t being allow work for the man whilst maintaining the expectation to also raise a family. The common man is so completely and utterly outplayed at the moment.

This is a bit of a cop out though. At the moment a very small number of humans do a very large amount of the harm because there is no cost to doing so.

We have 200 years of failure. Even the left wing in the west are just another flavour of capitalist (and there’s an argument to be made in the east too at this stage). At no point did I say I was unconvinced that we should be resisting our kings. The fact is that capital (as in assets/things, ie not just financial) is power. How are we going to outcompete an adversary that can pump out millions of drones a month or bribe their way into gaining contracts to build up surveillance apparatus? Eventually theory needs to meet reality.

Shocking. You need to learn how to communicate your ideas. I’m out.

You told me I haven’t read political theory that I have been intimately familiar with for decades and then you say I’m in bad faith. Come on, be serious. All of the people who tried and failed also read this theory. Theory is theory and reality is something else. Which brings me to my next point…

In fact you do raise a good point. All progress gets erased by the pedos as soon as they get a chance. This is the environment we operate in so we need to factor that into any approaches we take. Anything we do needs to factor this in. There is no point in being well versed in theory but not being able to convert that into sustained action. This is why I am asking you what to do. Many people on here are so quick to throw the James Chambers under the bus when he has probably done more to advance the cause than anyone on here. Where is the humility? Where is the solidarity? It really stinks like a controlled opposition disruption setup. Shit in the pool so everyone has to get out.

“We are not outnumbered. We are out-organized.” - Malcom X

This kind of mud slinging will only ensure the above quote continues to be true.

I mean you aren’t making any case. You’re just throwing insults. It really doesn’t sound like you have a clue tbh. We also don’t have the luxury of following a “long and slow methodical process that will take generations”. That’s basically capitulation. We need actions we can take today. So again, I’m asking you, what actions do you think we should be taking?

Listen this is nothing new to me. I’m asking you, specifically, what you think we should do. I’ve read all the books, the files etc etc. I’m asking you.

They do so because of perverse incentives. They socialize the costs and privatize the gains. This is a fundamental design flaw of Capitalism and in turn Corporations.

Individual action won’t fix systemic issues like major polluters being almost exclusively from industry but that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t take the suggested actions in any case. Just don’t fool yourself that it is enough.

What? And stop indiscriminately slaughtering babies? You monster!

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No substance to it though. It’s all very surface level angst. I’m unconvinced. I’m open to hearing more about how you think we should go about this though. Genuinely here to learn.

You have a magic solution? What is it?.. because it seems whatever we’ve done has been pretty ineffective.

People getting arrested for funding programs for Palestinians are not imperialists…

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How do you plan to fight imperialism without resources? Maybe I’m missing something but it doesn’t sound like you’ve thought this through properly.

You’re not getting it. You have people who will help you achieve your goals and people who won’t. If you exclude the people who will despite differences then you are locking in failure. Your purity badge isn’t going to win you shit.