Exactly my current setup :)

I subscribe to RSS feeds for subreddits that don’t exist on Lemmy just so that I don’t give them any clicks or ad revenue.

For answers to questions or problems that are only available on Reddit, I turn on my favorite privacy browser, I hold my breath, go to that specific post, get my answer, and gtfo asap.

Like the saying goes, never stick it in crazy. But if you have to, be protected.

Would you pay a yearly fee to continue getting updates for your now no longer being updated but perfectly fine otherwise phone? I would.

Good question. At that point I’d explore replacing the OS altogether with GapheneOS or LineageOS.

When it comes to cars though, I don’t find FSD an appealing enough value to continue paying (or even begin to pay in the first place). But to your point, that doesn’t mean Tesla shouldn’t price it how they want and people to buy it if they wish.

I see where you’re coming from. And I also agree with the subscription heated seats.

I think we might actually be advocating for the same thing lol. I was making the argument that manufacturers should have a one-time price for things that are packaged along with the product (with the exception of features like FSD that requires a continuing service to operate and evolve), but jailbreaking static features like heated seats is fair game.

However, your post got me thinking… If it is reasonable for FSD to be a subscription model, how are FSD updates different than, let’s say, your phone having updates and security patches? We don’t currently pay for new versions of iOS or Android. Granted the complexity and stake of FSD is greater than a phone, it is similar fundamentally

I have no qualms about building for the future and educating. I fully support that. What I don’t support is the brigading and the lambasting of users who choose to purchase closed or proprietary products. That is their right as much as it is yours to advocate for FOSS.

If “taking everything from us” is the issue, there are appropriate channels and mechanisms to defend against that. If you don’t want your FOSS software to be used in a priority setting, apply the correct licensing models and pursue legal paths. GPL-licensed FOSS is generally and effectively avoided by for-profit organizations. If you purposefully choose MPL or Apache for your license models, that’s really your responsibility for legally protecting your FOSS IP. Apply the right licensing model, it is literally a single button to change it if your source is on GitHub.

I’ll be transparent as to why I paid. And I only speak for me, not any other Sync user. Sync has been the app I used the most in the past decade. Sync has been what I - personally and subjectively - found to be my ideal android app experience, above all other apps. The majority of the time my phone is on is with Sync open. And this was all for free, for nearly a decade.

Reddit has taken that away from me. And the reason I’m willing to pay is to compensate the Sync dev for the value he has personally given me. While I believe in FOSS, I believe more in the principle of fair trade. And I have judged that, in my specific circumstance, he has given me more in value over the past 10 years than the price he currently asks for. And again, I only speak for myself.

And yes, the source of information comes from the serving platform (whether that’s Reddit or Lemmy instances). I would have been willing to pay for a Reddit API key if that meant being able to keep Sync. But they don’t offer it. And once I am able to migrate my profile to a different instance, I plan on donating to that instance if they take donations.

I’ve done the same with any service that has given me value, including Wikipedia. Again, this is based on fair trade and value.

You are entitled to make any assumptions you want about my choice. I’m glad you have your criteria for choosing the platforms and apps you like, and I celebrate that.

Unfortunately, you don’t really know my reasoning for my choice of platform and app, so telling me to go to Reddit based on your mis-assumptions about why I like Lemmy and Sync really highlights the core issue here.

Anyway, good luck to you bud. I hope you have a great Friday.

Why do you assume that content is the reason I chose a platform? Why do you gatekeep and dictate people’s choices?

And also from the Sync discord:

No, defending FOSS is not what reeks, it’s how people zealously go about defending it that does.

But you’re right, no need to discuss further.

How does PPP relate in this scenario? The price of the goods (in this case Sync) is the same wherever in the world it is available and whatever currency it is offered in, no?

Took me a minute to process, but that is a powerful one. I’m going to borrow that. Thanks for sharing lol

As much as those atrocious combinations give me the shivers, especially docker on Windows, we really should be advocating for the freedom of choice (even if that choice might be the wrong one). People should be free to do what they want, and such freedom should be celebrated.

• nothing wrong with that

• nothing wrong with that

• the data collection modules have not been initialized in the Sync code

But continue evangelizing.

This type of comment and attitude is what reeks in FOSS. Really unfortunate.

Oh the irony of this comment… calling others hypocritical and stupid when they themselves don’t have the full context into the reason people beg for Sync… The irony is too strong

Off topic, but I just have to ask… is your name a reference to the IBM database technology? Lol

Nope, because I don’t have an issue with paying for something that I like and enjoy. Don’t like to pay? Nobody is forcing you to. Stop lambasting others for their choice.

I’m all for FOSS (currently working at a company that contributes heavily to FOSS) and am a huge supporter/contributor of FOSS, but the level of entitlement and superiority complex that I’ve seen from many in the FOSS community (including yours) is highly unappealing, and at times frankly revolting. That’s what truly reeks and stains FOSS.

Your original reply stated that “including heated seats and making you pay once to access it is fair game” is what prompted my reply. Users shouldn’t be paying for it if it comes with the product, disabled or not.

I have no qualms about subscriptions for FSD due to continuing developments and improvements, and the fact that it requires a service running AI/ML models to operate. However the drastic subscription cost changes over 3 years raises an eyebrow. From $5000 in 2019 to $15000 in 2022 is quite a drastic change. They certainly have the right to price how they want, but definitely an insane pricing model.

If you pay to add a feature to a product that was previously not available, sure, that makes sense. But in this case, at the point of the transaction, and they hand over the keys, the ownership of the product is now 100% transferred to the customer. They should and can do whatever they want with their property. A manufacturer equipping a feature because it’s cheaper is frankly not the customer’s problem.

Imagine buying a house but you only get access to certain rooms. They set the price, the customer just pays for it. If they want to cover the cost of adding the heated seats feature, then add it to the starting price.