"How has Stein fared as a leader? By AOC’s perfectly reasonable standard, she’s done abysmally. As of July 2024, a mere 143 officeholders in the United States are affiliated with the Green Party. None of them are in statewide or federal offices. In fact, no Green Party candidate has ever won federal office. And Stein’s reign has been a period of indisputable decline, during which time the party’s membership—which peaked in 2004 at 319,000 registered members—has fallen to 234,000 today.

This meager coalition can’t possibly kick-start a legitimate political movement, capable of organizing voters and advancing ideas outside of perennial electoral events. It’s just large enough, however, to spoil the work of those who put in this kind of work."

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    ITT: Blue MAGA and preaching to the choir.

    Dr. Jill Stein has improved the Green Party; y’all just believe anything the duopoly and owner-class media spit out when it agrees with your thinking.

    Muslim support is at an all-time high for Dr. Jill Stein; that is why AOCPelosi, the new attack dog of Blue MAGA, started up again.

    I suggest getting out of the echo chambers and checking out independent journalists instead of continuing the self-censorship.

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        They are and they call you a nazi for saying free palestine or saying anything remotely negative about any democrat ever

        Edit but also the guy you’re replying to is dumb, wtf do they mean by AOCPelosi? They hate eachother xD

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          They are absolutely not. I’m voting Democratic all the way down the ticket this year and I will say all day that Biden needs to cut the crap with his support for Israel (while also mentioning Trump has been accused of illegally contacting Israel to sabotage the ceasefire deals). Lots of people I know share this exact opinion. Your argument is a strawman.

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            You and your friends not being that doesn’t mean they’re not real. A lot of democrats will call you a Chinese spy for suggesting that Biden or other democrats could do better on Israel, and to them even remotely questioning whether we should be blindly VBNMWing for all eternity makes you a nazi who’s trying to get trump elected. Blue maga is real, and their existence and the fact all other democrats deny they exist is gonna get Trump elected 100x faster than trying to make democrats more electable and less genocidal. I promise you the moment trump dies, I never vote blue again unless yall get your shit together and stop trying to be almost as far right and and blindly fanatical and genocidal as republicans (slight edit bc I was being kinda hyperbolic on how many dems are magalike)

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            Liberals commit social murder daily and you want to go on about violence and suffering.

            Low wages is violence, no affordable housing is violence, income inequality is violence, social inequality is violence, for profit healthcare is violence.

            Do you see the trend? Violence isn’t just physical, it’s also mental, and economic.

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              Yeah sure anything you need to not feel bloodthirsty, buddy. Something something both sides. Maybe if you ever spoke to another human being irl you would not be like this

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              When people say you twist words, this is what they mean.

              “Murder” and “Violence” have well accepted meanings - redefining them to mean “anything that doesn’t line up with fringe-left communist ideals” is a propaganda tactic.

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      Oh it’s our resident “independent journalism” guy who seems to post nothing but far-right podcasts.

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      Dr. Jill Stein has improved the Green Party; y’all just believe anything the duopoly and owner-class media spit out when it agrees with your thinking.

      In what ways, alongside the one point mentioned, and according to what sources (presumably not from the party itself)?

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      The greater part of the population is not very intelligent, dreads responsibility, and desires nothing better than to be told what to do. Provided the rulers do not interfere with its material comforts and its cherished beliefs, it is perfectly happy to let itself be ruled.

      ~Aldous Huxley

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        Wow! Never read that quote. Perfectly explains how American politics got to be such a mess. I laugh at all the revolutionary talk around here.

        material comforts

        Yeah, no, we’re so well-fed we have to find excuses for our rampant obesity. There won’t be a revolution until people are literally fighting for food and our masters will never allow that to come to pass. Look at lemmy, bitching and moaning about video game prices and such. We’re pretty fucking far from lacking material comforts. To add, a lot of people think they’re suffering, but haven’t seen a day of true poverty in their lives. Y’all, you’re suffering in comparison to what could and should be.

        cherished beliefs

        As fast as we in the West are dropping religion, notice the politicians haven’t done anything about the rampant sex abuse? Taxing the church? Unheard of! Let the masses have their silly beliefs, stick to the middle of the road if you must, get elected again.