Diplomats walk out on Israeli prime minister’s speech at UN to protest against devastating war on Gaza and latest attacks on Lebanon

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    including scores of women and children

    This always assumes that there are no civilian men. I get that men are the ones usually conscripted, but… that’s always seemed weird to me.

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      In Gaza casualty numbers any adult man is assumed to be a combatant by Isreal.

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      Call to emotion, nothing else. Women and children “sounds” worse than “people” dying.

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      Fuck the USA, and every country too chicken shit to oppose a criminally corrupt sociopath committing war crimes to delay his own imminent corruption trial and imprisonment.

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        Fuck the USA government, you mean. I only live here, and all I get to do is choose between the lesser of two evils every 4 years. What a nightmare.

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          If you think you only get a choice once every four years, that’s part of the problem. There’s elections every single year, many of which you have more choice and more power over.

          Maybe if people showed up to vote more than once every four years we’d actually see some effective change.

        • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world
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          Well yeah, obviously. If you blamed the entire population for its governments actions then every human alive is guilty.

          Fuck the US government, and everyone who supports their crimes.

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    If he is still able to speak and be heard, then they arent loud enough. Every single person in that room needs to be screaming to demand his immediate arrest.

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      The UN is a forum for dialogue. Expecting the UN to do something other than either say stuff or help by mandate supported by countries just shows you don’t understand what their purpose is.

      Walking out in this case sends the message. If these countries want to do something about it they can, other countries might intervene on Israëls behalf. The UN provides a forum to discuss this kind of stuff. So countries don’t end up in wars they did not want.

      • RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com
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        If these countries want to do something about it they can

        Yes, but they don’t. They go grab a coffee. Look, I know many countries are very vocal about their disagreement. I’m just so pissed there are still others (mine included) that seem to be absolutely blind to any of the atrocities and respond with neverending loyalty. In my county I even understand that to a degree, but still I’m beyond pissed. Accepting the genocide your ancestors caused and the moral consequences of it shouldn’t result in accepting another one driven by former victims. What Israel does is vile and unacceptable. And I say Israel, not the Israelis or ‘the Jews’, because I’m not a complete idiot. But there are people who might use the antisemite card on this. Maybe because they are complete idiots, or because they are off the same ideals and moral as the Nazis. And this behavior sickens me.

        • RubberDuck@lemmy.world
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          Well yes, the risk that is present is that if countries where to openly intervene and wage war against Israël, the US would intervene on the side of Israel.

          Talking in the UN allows them to weigh their options, which allows them to make more informed decisions. Regardless of the subject matter at hand.

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            I’m not talking about war with Israel. But condemning them. Stopping trade. Calling in diplomats. There’s a lot of granularity between peace and war.

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                I think it is. As soft and vanilla as they get. Meanwhile people are dying by the hundreds and thousands a day. I’m not sure if the reaction meets the required pressure.

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    Cool, but did you stop giving money and weapons yet? No? Then your statement is as effective as “thoughts and prayers.”

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      The UN does not supply arms to Israel. The UN has passed many resolutions condemning Israel’s treatment of the Palestinians, going back decades. They have literally already done everything the UN can do, many times over. They weren’t a governing body with binding powers over where the US sends arms, or who France chooses to support.

      So I’d have to say that your comment is less effective than their walkout, because it isn’t even properly informed.

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      The UN definitely has its problems but I’m not going to blame UN global representatives for the US paving the unilateral support for the genocidal terrorist nation state of Israel.