Pope Francis praised the courage of victims and reviled offenders at the end of an extraordinary papal visit.
  • myrmidex@slrpnk.netEnglish
    22·
    1 day ago

    Fun fact, during the same trip he also mentioned that doctors assisting abortions are hired killers.

  • FuglyDuck@lemmy.worldEnglish
    441·
    1 day ago

    …

    I have an idea.

    How about the pope turn over all the pedo priests? and all the evidence they’ve burried, too. And like. Let them have their day in court. Criminal. Court.

    Oh. that’s right.

    • Darkard@lemmy.worldEnglish
      131·
      1 day ago

      Why does he allow them to exist in the first place? He created them and their thoughts.

      Satan’s influence you say? So Satan is more powerful than god?

      • GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.socialEnglish
        21·
        17 hours ago

        Can’t speak for everyone. But for myself, the world and humanity was created with free will and it’s up to us to choose good vs evil. God only has dominion over the heavenly afterlife and the hellish afterlife is forced to exist on the principle of yin and yang. There can be no good without evil.

        For context I consider myself agnostic but was born roman Catholic and base my morals on the teachings that everyone was created equal and forgiveness should be shown to those that can be helped. Forgiveness isn’t a requirement in the cases that someone willingly chooses evil in the face of morality over and over. (Putin, Hitler, Trump, Netanyahu, serial violent criminals, etc.)

        • suigenerix@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          3 hours ago

          But even if we have free will to choose, God knows all. He exists in all space and time. He knows every freewill choice each person will make ahead of time. So he creates people knowing they are unavoidably destined for eternal agonising pain in hell.

          And even if we make freewill choices, why doesn’t he intervene? A parent will stop a baby playing with a deadly sharp knife. But if the parent doesn’t see it happening, why doesn’t God jump in and do the right thing like the parent does?

        • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
          72·
          17 hours ago

          God: you have free will

          Also God: you’d better make the choices I dictate or you’ll be punished eternally in the most unimaginable hellscape possible.

              • GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.socialEnglish
                1·
                13 hours ago

                Catholicism teaches that God is all forgiving and loves unconditionally. For as many flaws as the Catholic Church has or has had, they’ve generally been the Christian denomination that’s preached forgiveness the most to my knowledge. Maybe I’m wrong.

                And I was talking about my beliefs growing up in the Catholic Church not Catholicism as a whole.

                • stellargmite@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  1·
                  13 hours ago

                  Yes, as a lapsed one myself, I believe they preach it as they need it the most, as the self proclaimed representatives of the creator of the universe would, when happening to be historical blood thirsty, wealth hoarding, human trafficking paedophile harbourers they are at their political core. Regardless, forgiveness is a necessary and helpful human value which religion did not invent, much like all of the moral arguments in apology of religion. If it works for you, thats fine. My position is also based on having grown up in it.