Voting is a system by which decisions are made by a large number of people. If you don’t have a voting system, you can’t have a functioning Society unless you have something like a dictatorship. Anarchism requires voting. Anarchists who pretend that everything needs to be done by absolute consensus are stupid, and are doomed to failure.
You know how to guarantee that you have no power? Don’t vote. Not voting is 100% the best way to screw yourself over and the worse a candidate is the more they’re hoping people with any kind of morals stay home.
Suck it up and vote. It sucks and needs to be better but not voting is such a bullshit stance that fails everyone.
It must be wild being that naive. You’re not clever, you’re handing an incredibly high amount of power to the people who want to use it to fuck you over basically for the fun of it.
You do need to do what you say but if you don’t vote because you’re too busy throwing a temper tantrum you’re going to find that organizing, under what will basically be a far-right dictatorship, will be…rather difficult.
Moderates are always first against the wall no matter who wins, but they tend to share their mass graves with the Anarchists who put them there. Don’t be a useful idiot
You just said voting bad, so those alternatives are all going to inherently involve autocratic systems arising out of whatever “not voting” system you try to run with.
This plus the displayed disdain for the greater society you’re intending to separate from indicates you will inherently be more likely to establish a cult under your model, be it Waco or Jim Jones, it will end up as a cult.
Yeah, that’s why the people who’s ideology is reinforcing the current power structure and reverting it to even worse times are so hell bent on sabotaging the vote.
Speaking against the tool of the proletariat to enact their will without having to fight a war for it every fucking time makes you nothing but a class traitor.
It is literally the main tool by which further democratic rights have been obtained in those western democracies, contrary to your giveaway scare quotes.
Be it by referenda, passage of law, or by constitutional amendment, every single advancement has been made through the organization of the proletariat as a voting block.
Stop being a fucking class traitor because you don’t want to admit that sitting on your ass doesn’t send any kind of message other than that you have done nothing for the working class.
Why are you downplaying voting? Yes, organizing strikes and many years ago larger movements created opportunities to pass monumental bills. Yet, there have been SO many laws and discussions since then that did not involve some form of violence or shutdown of some port. By voting together we can enact change. We create it through one voice. Even if our desires are different in the moment, we all want a better life. Why not take every advantage we can to make one?
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Voting is a system by which decisions are made by a large number of people. If you don’t have a voting system, you can’t have a functioning Society unless you have something like a dictatorship. Anarchism requires voting. Anarchists who pretend that everything needs to be done by absolute consensus are stupid, and are doomed to failure.
Good argument. All you did is make blatant statements. Voting is not the answer especially not voting in capitalist elections.
You sound like your entire education in your stated philosophy was anarchism 101 on reddit.
This is an example of a blatant statement. How is what you’re saying any different?
You know how to guarantee that you have no power? Don’t vote. Not voting is 100% the best way to screw yourself over and the worse a candidate is the more they’re hoping people with any kind of morals stay home.
Suck it up and vote. It sucks and needs to be better but not voting is such a bullshit stance that fails everyone.
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It must be wild being that naive. You’re not clever, you’re handing an incredibly high amount of power to the people who want to use it to fuck you over basically for the fun of it.
You do need to do what you say but if you don’t vote because you’re too busy throwing a temper tantrum you’re going to find that organizing, under what will basically be a far-right dictatorship, will be…rather difficult.
Moderates are always first against the wall no matter who wins, but they tend to share their mass graves with the Anarchists who put them there. Don’t be a useful idiot
So set up cults then.
You just said voting bad, so those alternatives are all going to inherently involve autocratic systems arising out of whatever “not voting” system you try to run with.
This plus the displayed disdain for the greater society you’re intending to separate from indicates you will inherently be more likely to establish a cult under your model, be it Waco or Jim Jones, it will end up as a cult.
Hah yeah that’s the line
Yeah, that’s why the people who’s ideology is reinforcing the current power structure and reverting it to even worse times are so hell bent on sabotaging the vote.
Speaking against the tool of the proletariat to enact their will without having to fight a war for it every fucking time makes you nothing but a class traitor.
The vote in a “western democracy” isn’t the “tool if the proletariat” that us a crazy take.
It is literally the main tool by which further democratic rights have been obtained in those western democracies, contrary to your giveaway scare quotes.
Be it by referenda, passage of law, or by constitutional amendment, every single advancement has been made through the organization of the proletariat as a voting block.
Stop being a fucking class traitor because you don’t want to admit that sitting on your ass doesn’t send any kind of message other than that you have done nothing for the working class.
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Why are you downplaying voting? Yes, organizing strikes and many years ago larger movements created opportunities to pass monumental bills. Yet, there have been SO many laws and discussions since then that did not involve some form of violence or shutdown of some port. By voting together we can enact change. We create it through one voice. Even if our desires are different in the moment, we all want a better life. Why not take every advantage we can to make one?