Giuliani got a tongue lashing Thursday in federal court after missing a deadline to turn over valuables to two election workers he defamed. He owes the women $148 million in damages.
I don’t think you can get a pardon on a civil judgement. You probably can be pardoned for any criminal contempt cases that arise from disobeying a civil judgement.
That could at least keep you out of jail, but federal judges have a federal Marshal service they can order around to repo assets if need be.
We’ve got a defense system against fascism here in the US of A called checks and balances, and another one called minority rights. And I think reasonable people should lean on those as hard as we can for as long as they remain viable options.
Fascism is something that comes to pass because people allow it to happen. Even now it is not yet inevitable. For example, Proud Boys and the other paramilitaries are not unified and they don’t control the streets. The best course of action is to resist at every opportunity.
Fun fact, the guard rails basically got blown the fuck out last time. Trump has figured out that he can do whatever the fuck he wants and let courts figure out whether it’s legal or not, and NOW all he has to do is appeal to the Supreme Court and they’ll uphold whatever bullshit he’s trying to do.
Fascism is something that comes to pass because people allow it to happen.
Fascism is actually something that comes to pass because people vote fascists into office. The Nazis were actually voted into office in Germany. Trump was very candid about what he’ll do once he gets into office and still won a very resounding victory.
The democratic election was just one step in a long multi step process. This was true for the Nazis, and it is true for Trump.
To actually do all the stuff he wants to do, Trump will require people to cooperate with him. Do not give any cooperation from your end.
If he does something that’s illegal, litigate it in court. If he wants to pass an enabling act, filibuster that s***. If he wants to ban books, circumvent those book bans. Do not give up a single inch of ground willingly. For every person that is rounded up into a camp, some other fairly normal person had to choose to do that. Don’t. Trump can’t run these camps all by himself.
I presume Julie is trying to string things out until February when he expects to be pardoned?
I don’t think you can get a pardon on a civil judgement. You probably can be pardoned for any criminal contempt cases that arise from disobeying a civil judgement.
That could at least keep you out of jail, but federal judges have a federal Marshal service they can order around to repo assets if need be.
You describe how things work in 2024. I’m pretty sure we’re going to see Trump stomping hard on state’s rights pretty early in 2025.
Here’s what I want say about that.
We’ve got a defense system against fascism here in the US of A called checks and balances, and another one called minority rights. And I think reasonable people should lean on those as hard as we can for as long as they remain viable options.
Fascism is something that comes to pass because people allow it to happen. Even now it is not yet inevitable. For example, Proud Boys and the other paramilitaries are not unified and they don’t control the streets. The best course of action is to resist at every opportunity.
if you had checks and balances, your president elect would be in prison. instead we now know that even leading an insurrection has no checks.
Fun fact, the guard rails basically got blown the fuck out last time. Trump has figured out that he can do whatever the fuck he wants and let courts figure out whether it’s legal or not, and NOW all he has to do is appeal to the Supreme Court and they’ll uphold whatever bullshit he’s trying to do.
Fascism is actually something that comes to pass because people vote fascists into office. The Nazis were actually voted into office in Germany. Trump was very candid about what he’ll do once he gets into office and still won a very resounding victory.
The democratic election was just one step in a long multi step process. This was true for the Nazis, and it is true for Trump.
To actually do all the stuff he wants to do, Trump will require people to cooperate with him. Do not give any cooperation from your end.
If he does something that’s illegal, litigate it in court. If he wants to pass an enabling act, filibuster that s***. If he wants to ban books, circumvent those book bans. Do not give up a single inch of ground willingly. For every person that is rounded up into a camp, some other fairly normal person had to choose to do that. Don’t. Trump can’t run these camps all by himself.
Unfortunately, it looks like Trump has no shortage of cooperation.