Mere hours after some House Republicans reported progress on a proposal to avoid a government shutdown at the end of the month, Donald Trump demanded they use the opportunity to "defund" Special Counsel Jack Smith and his team.
  • Jordan Lund@lemmy.oneEnglish
    128·
    1 year ago

    Shouldn’t this result in more charges for obstruction and another RICO case if any Representatives go along with it?

    • Son_of_dad@lemmy.world
      172·
      1 year ago

      I doubt he’ll ever set foot in jail. But I would love it if he fled to Russia. There’d be no more denying his allegiances after that, and we can all move on from him. With any luck he dies by by big Mac long before any of that happens though. Thankfully he’s almost 80, and doesn’t take care of himself, so he won’t last another 10 years, but he has rich ex president doctors, so who knows.

      • dangblingus@lemmy.world
        28·
        1 year ago

        There is already no denying his allegiance to Russia.

        -Constantly brags about deals made with the Russian government -Openly, on television, called for Russia to hack Hilary Clinton’s emails -Praises Putin at the DROP of a hat -the Helsinki summit -openly disparages Zelenskyy and regurgitates Russian state propaganda

        If this was the 60s, Trump would be crucified by the GOP. Doesn’t the GOP still hate capital C Communism? Russia is hardly a communist country, but the optics of it are completely antithetical to what conservatism in America has always stood for.

        • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
          8·
          1 year ago

          Modern conservatism stands for nothing except power for power’s sake. They want nothing except “their way”, what ever it happens to be this week. They’re simply enemies of democracy.

            • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
              2·
              1 year ago

              Nahhh old conservatives at least pretended to have values they were protecting while being wannabe despots. They’re getting way, way more brash and open about being fascistic pieces of shit these days, and that is a very worrying development.

              They’re no longer fascistic in effect. They’re becoming openly fascist. That is very bad.

        • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
          4·
          1 year ago

          “Russia if you’re listening…” should have been the start of cuffs being slapped on his wrists, instead it was laughed off as a joke.

            • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
              1·
              1 year ago

              I repeat, it was a mistake to treat him seriously as a candidate, his behavior needed to be addressed and someone needed to pull him aside and ask him what the hell he thought he was doing.

              Donald Trump in the presidential race needed to be treated not as a proper contender, but as a rampaging bull that had ran onto the track and started goring the jockeys.

              “Russia, if you’re listening…” should have been the moment any idea of him as a legitimate candidate was dropped, and he was placed into Federal custody.

              In future generations, when the Republican party is remembered in the same way that all fascist groups ultimately are… people will highlight the “aww shucks” response as an indication of the past’s naivety

        • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
          3·
          1 year ago

          Russia is hardly a communist country, but the optics of it are completely antithetical to what conservatism in America has always stood for.

          Fascist kleptocratic Russia is 100.0000% fully aligned to micrometer precision with what conservatism in America has always stood for.

    • Wilibus@lemmy.world
      11·
      1 year ago

      I keep dreaming to see a world where a fascist dictator attempts to run for president of the United States while exiled and hiding somewhere like North Korea or Russia.

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
    61·
    1 year ago

    Yeah I don’t want to go to jail for overthrowing the government so let me go and sabotage the government to avoid just that…

    Meanwhile, if I steal a bread and try to run I’ll get shot in the back.

    Awesome difference

    • Meldroc@lemmy.world
      9·
      1 year ago

      If there’s one thing I want above all else taken away from him assuming he’s convicted, it’s luxury. Trump should be forced to live like he’s in an army barracks, or, well, a prison!

    • fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee
      98·
      1 year ago

      Personally I wish he could be tortured to death and kept alive for as long as possible with various stimulants and machines to ensure a long, long, long process.

      Others’ mileage may vary.

      • JungleJim@sh.itjust.works
        9·
        1 year ago

        If I had meme skills I’d make a Simpsons “Don’t make me tap the sign” macro, and the sign would have the cruel and unusual punishments clause on it.

        • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
          104·
          1 year ago

          Some people deserve it. Of course if it were legal, many who didn’t would get it.

          Though it being illegal doesn’t stop the cops from doing it. Just look up all the news about people showing up at the ER instead of booking when arrested, the literal torture warehouse uncovered recently, and the general fascistic nature of US cops… Not even talking about Guantanamo or the military.

          If you want the constitution to be adhered to, you already have work to do.

          • JungleJim@sh.itjust.works
            21·
            1 year ago

            Well yeah, duh. But that doesn’t mean we stop trying to do better. People are saying “do the right thing”, and you’re saying “people already fucked up though” like it’s some sort of, I don’t know, excuse to not care about doing the right thing this time. Maybe, just maybe, if we can prove even the highest level crooks go to jail, we can shake the idea that “In America that there’s no point in doing anything because it’s already shit.”.

            I’m not saying let the fucker free. Lock him up til he dies. Prison rations. Solitary confinement. But if we torture, and excuse it because THIS TIME WE’RE SURE, and “it must be alright because the bad guys also tortured”, then we’ve only made a more torturous union.

            • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
              1·
              1 year ago

              Nah, you were saying don’t torture via tap the sign reference. I was simply saying that problem already exists, and it sure as hell isn’t toward cops. It’s from cops.

              I was basically pointing out that if you’re against torture, you should really hate these fuckers.

                • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
                  12·
                  1 year ago

                  Yes, I’m speaking in the sub-context of explaining what kinds of cruelty already exists. This context stems from the “tap the sign” reference which was used to speak against cruelty towards horrible people who ostensibly actually deserve it.

                  If you’re against cruelty to people who ostensibly deserve it, cruelty to those who don’t should be a much higher priority. Yes, it is in effect a what-about-ism, but perspective is critical to having solid moral axioms.

    • fruitleatherpostcard@lemm.ee
      37·
      1 year ago

      Personally I wish he could be tortured to death and kept alive for as long as possible with various stimulants and machines to ensure a long, long, long process.

      Others’ mileage may vary.

  • cultsuperstar@lemmy.mlB
    44·
    1 year ago

    Where’s all the evidence against Hillary and all the evid the My Pillow guy has and all the evidence of yada yada yada? When are they dropping these bombshells?

  • LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world
    453·
    1 year ago

    He hates Qevin McCarthy. Imminent govt shutdown will be a lose-lose situation for Qevin: either face prolonged shutdown to appease the nut jobs or pass the budget with the help of Dems and get booted by FreeDumb cucks.

    Trump is simply taking credit for of Kevin’s inevitable downfall and making it all about himself, as usual.

  • Rapidcreek@reddthat.com
    41·
    1 year ago

    I’m reading this from a different stand point…

    I think that he believes that there will be a shutdown anyways so that in his mind he can claim credit for the shutdown.

    As in, I told them to shut it down and they did. Look how powerful I am.

    • BReel@lemmy.one
      6·
      1 year ago

      I’m not smart enough to know. If the gov shuts down, would that stall his trials as well? Or is that a separate entity?

    • HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.worldEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      Oh yeah, it’s like how I convinced my nieces and nephews I control traffic lights. I see the timer on the crosswalk counting down and then I say “It’s turning green” or something like that and then it does. They were mystified until they turned like, 8.

      • MotoAsh@lemmy.world
        2·
        1 year ago

        If you’re familiar with the light cycles, it’s pretty easy to time it within a second or two just by paying attention to who currently has a green and who’s coming to a stop.

        That should keep them impressed a few more years. Quite a few if they turn out to be a terrible driver!

  • LillyPip@lemmy.ca
    40·
    1 year ago

    That’s not a wrench; dear god, these headlines.

    Donald Trump demanded they use the opportunity to “defund” Special Counsel Jack Smith and his team.

    That’s not how any of this works, lol. This idiocy will be denied like all similar gambits he’s flailed into under the advice of incompetent counsel.

    It’s two hours since they hit the iceberg, and they’ve commandeered all available lifeboats. Many are taking on water. Some of them are bailing frantically, some are taking the opportunity to stick their hands up the skirts of women trying to bail water or vomiting over the side, and some are boring more holes or denying they’re in a lifeboat to begin with.

    Meanwhile, though they can all see the rescue ship right in front of them, trump is facing the opposite way, demanding they row away from help because he knows better. McCarthy dressed as a woman to board the first lifeboat, but he’s been discovered and is trying desperately to explain why he should be there.

    I’ve tortured this metaphor enough, but the ship has sunk and we’re witnessing the cutthroat mess as survivors begin fighting each other for space on the door. It’s sad and frightening in equal measure.

    e: I’d love to see this scene as a Garrison-style comic. Seems like a thing AI could do.

  • dragonflyteaparty@lemmy.world
    371·
    1 year ago

    Nothing to see here. Nothing to hide. They certainly have all the evidence that Trump is innocent. They’re sure to release it any day now. This only proves what he’s been saying all along.