• HumanPenguin@feddit.uk
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    6 days ago

    Sorry but still not correct.

    To convict is to find guilty. The senate did that. Twice. And that is all the constitution allows congress to do.

    The senate is required to then sentence the Impeached (Meaning: Convicted of an impeachable offence) to sentence. This is when refusal happened.

    So “The senate refused to sentence you” would be the accurate correction.

    The founding father set it up that way, intentional to prevent any one branch having the power to remove the executive branch. “Separation of powers”

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      2 days ago

      I’m responding here because it was annoying to read this stuff. I really dislike people being pedantic for no reason, sorry, especially when they’re not correct in their pedantry and it does not contribute to the conversation.

      The branches of government don’t include “senate” and “house”. They are one branch together.

      The penalty for impeachment has one relief: removal from office. That is the only outcome of a presidential impeachment. This is absolutely within the power of Congress.

      Midnitte was emotionally / morally correct in their initial post. Yes, we know “Impeachment” has occurred, but for it to be meaningful to any US citizen, the president needs to be removed from power, as well, not aquitted in the Senate.

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        2 days ago

        The penalty for impeachment has one relief: removal from office.

        Yep Article 1, Section 3, Clauses 7, but Clauses 6 also states.

        The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried the Chief Justice shall preside; And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

        So no this is absolutely not within the power of Congress.

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          2 hours ago

          WTF? The Senate isn’t part of Congress? THIS is what you didn’t understand during this whole conversation?

          Edit: Actually you don’t even understand the text you copied. I should not respond at all to let your brilliance shine here. But whatever, this is too easy to not respond to.

          Let’s set this straight. The House of Representatives and the Senate are each their half of Congress, it’s a bicameral legislature.

          You should sit down now. Take this as a lesson. At least have your general knowledge ducks in a row. Allow the people who are contributing to the conversation to do so.