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- Europe@europe.pub
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- Europe@europe.pub
Germany is at a crossroads when it comes to its security policy — one of the deepest upheavals of the post-War era.
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Everyone seems so willing to break the Non Proliferation Treaty nowadays, it’s scary
Everyone seems so willing to break the Non Proliferation Treaty nowadays, it’s scary
Non-Proliferation is based on the promise of nuclear powers to defend those who don’t have nukes. Since this promise is out of the window thanks to Trump, proliferation is the logical consequence.
this promise is out of the window thanks to Trump,
*George W Bush (and Israel in general).
What does Israel have to do with the problem of non-nuclear NATO nations no longer being able to rely on the US’ promise to defend them with their nukes?
Literally no-one mentioned NATO before you, no-one referred to US protection specifically. Respond to the actual discussion, not the one in your head.
This is an article about a potential German nuclear bomb. Germany is a NATO country which so far has been provided with US nukes within the framework of nuclear sharing. The only reason for the sudden ambitions for own nukes for Germany, but also eg Scandinavia, is directly linked to the apparent unreliability of Trump’s US in terms of said nuclear sharing and hence especially a concern for non-nuclear NATO members.
Again, respond to the actual discussion, not the one in your head
Pandora’s box is open. Thanks Putin. Thanks Trump. EU can’t do nothing… We’re heading to more war and disorder either way. Not only more new nukes, also higher chances of them being used again which is even more scary.
I just want to point out, that we are really talking about building nukes again in 2025.
Well, I’m not a big fan of nuclear proliferation but Ukraine gave up theirs and look what happened…
As long as we have imperialistic authoritarian world leaders, we will need ways to keep them at bay, and nuclear deterrence is probably the best one unfortunately…I wonder if Putin would have bet on them not being used and attacked anyway.
Just like Putin has not used any nuke, there’s a huge deterrent to use them at all.
I could definitely see Putin making calculated decisions like that.
Of course Ukraine would have had a stronger stand with them either way.
Yes. The Budapest memo and the US strategic backflip has proved non nuclear powers are deeply at risk.
Europe has French nukes, which are more than sufficient.
At least until the next French election. Not exactly a long-term guarantee. Germany needs its own deterrent.
afd still exists so no
Nukes are only useful if you are at the point where you want to end the world. Germany should focus peace where possible and the equipment needed to end wars in their favor when peace is not an option. They can’t deliver Ukraine the tanks, artillery shells, and and so on needed, so adding nukes to their plate is just diverting their interests. If they want to do more airplanes or air defense would be much better to invest in than nukes. (I’m not sure what Germany as in either of those categories)
Germany should focus peace where possible and the equipment needed to end wars in their favor when peace is not an option.
Well, nukes are doing exactly that.
Tell that to ukraine. france has plenty of nukes but they have not lanched them at russia over the ukraine invasion and so they are useless for this war.
You’re not supposed to launch nukes. It’s a deterrent. If Ukraine had nukes, this war would never have happened. Germany wants to get their own nukes to get independent deterrent.
