• 9488fcea02a9@sh.itjust.works
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    9 months ago

    I wonder how this person voted in their youth.

    “I’m 34 and working. I can’t afford to pay for other people’s dental care. I’m voting Conservative!”

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    More and more, people are finding out how shitty capitalism is. But they often fail to identify the real problem: the rich. Everything is a sham because a very small group of people have all of the wealth. Change that and ordinary people can have something too.

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            If there was no wealth gap then why would I want to get rid of the system? Sounds like it’s working pretty well.

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              It’s not working well for most of the globe, which is being exploited, their resources stolen, their people doing absolute worst jobs imaginable.

              Just so the west can act like they are the greatest the humanity has to offer.

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                Yeah, I’m just saying I think the elite are the problem. They’re the ones who created and protect the system. Without them, it doesn’t work.

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      9 months ago

      I really hate to say this, but the issue is not only the rich.

      The issue is the voters themselves.

      You could open a new dental school in every province. Tuition will be very affordable, but graduates will be required to work 5 years for a public dental clinic. The dental schools and public dental clinics will be funded by taxing soda, alcohol and cakes.

      Any politician that suggests that will be immediately accused of creating a nanny state.

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        The rich manipulate the voters. A portion of the population are stupid as fuck and fall for culture war scams, but it’s at the behest of the rich to keep us from developing class solidarity.

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    Good thing to vote for. As an aside, have you looked into getting your work done at a dental college/school? You can get the same work for a fraction of the price, but timing and quality can vary. If you are in a bind, might be worth looking into.

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    Cost of dental care in Canada is ridiculous (don’t know about US probably even worse there). One of the issues is that the dentists and hygienists are allowed to charge whatever the fuck they want. $400+ cleaning? Lol fuck that shit…a dentist in UK did cleaning for me within the cost of check-up so I wouldn’t have to go hygienist unless it was absolutely necessary, not just because “oh well you have insurance, let’s milk it dry and give insurance companies more reasons to deny claims and shit”. And that’s not even talking about everything else.

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      Where are they charging you 400$ for a cleaning? Edit - did not realize Van area was so goddamn expensive

      Dental care is 100% an issue and it should be universal but a standard cleaning is about 200$ and if you tell the dentist you don’t have insurance more times than not they will drop that number even further.

      Source - I had a cleaning last month and my bill is in front of me.

      200$ -> Three unit of time-Scaling 36$ -> One unit of time-Polishing

      I’m in the GTA. 400$ is either disingenuous and you’re pushing a narrative or your dentist is fucking fleecing you.

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        Vancouver and it’s no where near $400 on average. Now if you haven’t been in a decade and they need like 15 units of scaling, expect to pay more than a person returning twice a year. I paid $67 per kid recently before being covered by a plan.

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    What does age have to do with anything? Everyone deserves all of their body parts to be healthy not just “Non-Luxury” ones.

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      We should be able to care for our elders without forcing 74 year old humans to work so they can eat and sleep under a roof, but not even get dental care.

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        We should care for our elders, yes. They also have the lowest poverty rates in the country while young people are experiencing the worst poverty and unempyment rates with a bleak future. Our society is so wealthy. Healthcare should be a human right no matter your age.

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          I agree. And so should housing, adequate food, and basic transportation; everything needed to participate in society. But we are not there, and I am okay with making sure we provide these things first for our elders and other people with disabilities. When our elders can participate in cultural and civic life, we all benefit so much.

          Other posters complain about how irresponsible and undeserving “boomers” are. I don’t think these are things that need to be earned or “deserved”.

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    I have wondered this. Though it’s your most important issue, would you let it become a “single issue” vote? I.e. if it meant going down the Trump route but they promised free dental, would you vote for it?

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      We JUST got the beginnings of universal dental care access. It’s like the first days of Obamacare, even with our own hypocrite conservatives blocking it left and right.

      It is expanding and will be fleshed out if we don’t elect Milhouse, but right now perfection is the thief of joy because it’s not yet perfect on day 1.