President Joe Biden said Tuesday Israel’s prime minister needs to change his hardline government and support for the country’s military campaign is waning amid heavy bombardment of Gaza. … “This is the most conservative government in Israel’s history,” Biden said, adding that the Israeli government “doesn’t want a two-state solution.”

It’s mind-blowing how thoroughly Netanyahu has bungled this. They had damn near the entire world in full support after Hamas’ horrific attack on Israeli civilians, and they’ve managed to lose it.

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      Yes because israel is not committing genocide. Simply by the numbers of deaths it does not fit.

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              Which exact escalation are you talking about? If about this one, it’s probably more than 20k. What does it prove though?

              Judging which bomb is purposefully thrown on civilians is impossible.

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                it’s probably more than 20k. What does it prove though?

                See above definition on genocide. If thousands of dead Palestinian civilians (~50% of whom are children) isn’t enough to be labeled as genocide then the definition you are using is a bad one.

                Judging which bomb is purposefully thrown on civilians is impossible.

                Are you saying that when Israel bombed the Jabalia refugee camp, they were not intentionally killing civilians?

                https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/18/israeli-airstrikes-kill-80-in-palestinian-refugee-camp

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                  Most of those deaths happen due to the lack shelters and lack of places where people can hide. If Israel wanted to genocide Palestinians, they would have done it in a week. Obviously you will have more civilians killed in a crowded city area than somewhere in a field. Also, they would not have to be dead if Hamas didn’t start this.

                  Regarding the refugee camp: it’s more of an approach where they no longer try as much to limit civilian causalities as much as possible. There was also one of the main Hamas commanders in that camp.

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                    Most of those deaths happen due to the lack shelters and lack of places where people can hide.

                    …and the bombs landing on their heads.

                    If Israel wanted to genocide Palestinians, they would have done it in a week.

                    Not all genocides are done with equal fervor.

                    Also, they would not have to be dead if Hamas didn’t start this.

                    This was started in 1948 when Palestinians were forced from their homes. Playing a game of “who started it” doesn’t justify anything.

                    it’s more of an approach where they no longer try as much to limit civilian causalities as much as possible.

                    Yeah… almost like they are totally OK with killing civilians (genocide).