• blue_zephyr@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    You’re shifting the goalpoast. The comment above you said the west is drawing a line in regards to military violence upon Eastern Europe. All of Eastern Europe are old Soviet states so mentioning that is not at all a refutal of their statement.

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      1 year ago

      I didn’t shift anything. I want to know what military aggression they’re talking about, because otherwise it just comes off as the ethnocentric and uninformed stereotype of “slavs are violent”.

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          1. I very clearly made an edit asking for an example that wasn’t the war in Ukraine.
          2. So NATO has remained in force since the dissolution of the USSR because they’ve known that the Russian Federation would invade Ukraine 30 years into the future? And they didn’t even have the courtesy to give them a warning? Get real.
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            1. Yeah how nice for you. Unfortunately, in the real world, you can’t just say “give me the answer without giving me the answer” since that request is devoid of logic and reason.
            2. Russia has been hostile towards the West in ways that transcend direct military conflict as long as it exists.
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              Allow me to summarize the conversation for you, because it seems like you missed some important things. I corrected someone claiming NATO exists because of Russia, which is unequivocally false, and someone said it doesn’t matter because Eastern Europe is full of Jingoists. I asked for other examples of military aggression, and you come at me with the same example I already addressed. That puts us here. So I’ll ask again, what other examples are there of modern military aggression in Eastern Europe? Preferably, this answer will also address the follow up question: How is it aggressive towards the west in a manner that justifies the continued existence of NATO?