• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Show me the current genocide of queer people in america.

    The same place the genocide of queer people in Germany was in 1932. Do you know what happened in 1933? Do you know what happened between 1933 and 1945?

    But please, do tell me who I should vote for that has a statistically likely chance of winning the U.S. presidential election in November and will also definitely end the genocide in Israel. Give me that name.

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      8 months ago

      Idgaf who you vote for.

      Once again, you do you, but don’t come to me wanting my vote to help you re-elect Ol’ Genocidin Biden.

      I’m not here to stop you, I am here to make sure everyone realizes they are supporting someone who has ACTIVELY helped Israel commit genocidal actions.

      Not passively, he bypassed congress twice already to send them more fucking shells.

      You are once again hung up on what someone might do compared to what they know someone else is doing.

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        8 months ago

        Idgaf who you vote for.

        Because you don’t care about queer people.

        but don’t come to me wanting my vote to help you re-elect Ol’ Genocidin Biden.

        Because you don’t care about queer people.

        You are once again hung up on what someone might do compared to what they know someone else is doing.

        I’m sure you think that because you don’t care about queer people.

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            8 months ago

            It’s not an excuse, it’s a fact.

            You think a moral victory that will in no way stop any genocides is more important than stopping a potential genocide that is just as possible as what happened in Germany in 1933.

            You do know what happened in Germany in 1933, right?

            For example, in May, this happened: https://www.hmd.org.uk/resource/6-may-1933-looting-of-the-institute-of-sexology/

            And by 1939- before the Holocaust, before war even broke out, there were tens of thousands fewer gay men alive in Germany than there had been in 1932.

            Did you even know about any of that that? Probably not since you don’t give a shit about queer people.

            But in 1932, you would have told me that’s okay because even if Hitler does get in, queer people and the people that love them shouldn’t worry about any potential genocide, and besides, Paul von Hindenburg did nothing about Stalin’s genocide in the Ukraine and maintained friendly relations with Stalin, so if you vote for Hindenburg, you vote for genocide.

            And yes, I am comparing the guy who kept a book of Hitler speeches by his bedside and quotes Mein Kampf to Hitler.

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                8 months ago

                That’s your only response to everything I wrote, huh?

                Well that certainly proves that you don’t give a shit about queer people. Even if you call that obvious fact an excuse.

                By the way, “excuse” is an interesting word to use. It implies that it is, indeed, true that you don’t give a shit about queer people, but I’m only bringing that up to cover for something else.

                Wonder why you would use that word?

                Is it because you don’t give a shit about queer people?

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                  8 months ago

                  My friend, I use the word excuse in relation to you.

                  It implies that I don’t believe that you actually care this much and are using it to help you excuse your poor behavior( supporting candidates who are actively supporting genocidal actions against children) by saying “Look how much I care about this, just ignore every other flaw in my argument because of this big gay rights flag I am flying.”

                  I can’t believe I have to say this AGAIN!!!

                  Fuck The stupid fucking Cheeto in chief. He supports bad policies.

                  Fuck unlimited support for Israel Biden. He assists in others committing genocidal actions.

                  They both have flaws, they both don’t give a shit about brown people( Trump obviously, but “You ain’t black” Biden as well)

                  They both say they support genocidal actions.

                  Biden might be better, but he isn’t good enough.

                  We deserve better and every single time you VBNMW you drive us further away from a future in which your daughter does not have to worry.

                  You are driving them farther and farther and farther right every time you support them regardless of what they do.

                  Why do they give a fuck what you think, they can just take it a little later with way less fight, one step at a time.

                  Let them know that if they don’t get on board they won’t get power.

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        8 months ago

        The whole phrase ‘bypassing Congress’ is propaganda. It’s literal weapons sales. Those are not required to go through Congress. I disagree with those sales, but what he’s doing is perfectly legal and not backhanded.

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          It is legal, it is backhanded, and to add onto it. I believe he ran it by Congress later on, and they okayed it.

          That doesn’t change the fact that he did it, and bypassed congressional oversight.

          We can’t be OK with someone else being what we don’t want them to be this because they’re on our side.

          If you don’t call out your own side, just as much as you call anyone else’s, then it just doesn’t matter.

          Why are we all calling out Israel so much but aren’t surprised at what Hamas?

          Because one is so obvious that it doesn’t need to be fucking done, and the other is people that we thought were going to be better than that being so much worse than we thought they were.

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            8 months ago

            I am not saying it’s okay. In fact, in the comment you replied to, I said I don’t approve.

            We need laws to prevent this sort of action.