• Traister101@lemmy.today
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    4 months ago

    I mean the big ones people like to point at (Rushia and fucking Nazi Germany) sure as shit weren’t doing communism or socialism

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        I don’t think anyone points at Nazi Germany as an example of a leftist system

        I’ve seen many idiots do that unfortunately

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        There are definitely some folks that see “National Socialism” as the party name and look no further. Fortunately, I don’t think it’s a strong majority, but they pop up online.

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        Both Crowder and Shapiro have claimed this. They point out that the Nazi party was the ‘National Socialist German workers’ party’ and claim that’s enough for it to be socialist, and then also claim Russia is a communist country.

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        Correct. They are both idiots who pointed at Nazi Germany as an example of a leftist system.

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        It’s always as a “See!! Socialism bad!!” but yep they were literally fascist, Rushia too and yet here we are with people still thinking communist Rushia was communist.

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              Fascism is when you oppose fascism.

              Do you even understand what the words you’re using mean?

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                Saying that Facists are Facists is trivializing the holocaust? How’s that work? The fact Nazis were Facists doesn’t trivialize the fact that other groups are also Facists. Facists like to kill people that’s kind of their whole ideology. Fascist ideology leads directly to the kind of ideas the Nazis had.

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                Incredibly I don’t think that the USSR is “as bad as the Nazis” nor did I say anything like that. Is that why you morons are calling me a Nazi? Do you guys need a paragraph explaining that yes I do think the Nazis are bad?

                I’m not trying to win fuckn internet points I’d still be on reddit if I got turned on by that kinda shit. You people are.

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              The USSR was a dictatorship, but not a fascist dictatorship.

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                Stalin tried to resign 3 times and wasn’t allowed to. Weird thing for a dictator to not be allowed to do.

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                  Ignoring everything else wrong about your one sentence, a dictatorship needn’t be helmed by a single person. Brazil was a dictatorship from the 60s to the 90s, and had 6 different presidents during that time.

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                    Okay, what about the whole soviets and sharing power with trade unions thing? What about their innovations in participatory democracy. The USSR were hyperdemocratic, even on war footing, at least until destalinization happened and the bureaucracy started taking hold.

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      Not sure if alternative spelling or if your autocorrect really likes controversial vtuber Uruha Rushia.

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      Even the DDR wasn’t doing socialism. The public had to be all-in the idea, or they were discredited or arrested. It was an authoritarian autocracy acting in the name of socialism.