This is what active military serving near Iran get to eat. Is he having door dash granny deliver it?

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    Ironic that the debate is about Iran while the real story is in the tray. US defense budget is bumped up to 1.5 Trillion and yet that’s the return on investment for the people actually doing the deployments.

    Separately worth noting, between institutional investors and billionaire land grabs, the US has lost over 40 million acres of farmland to non-farming ownership in the last decade. These two things are connected: when capital extraction is the priority, everything else, soldiers, food supply, communities, gets the leftovers.

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      Capital extraction is just one aspect. However, one can get a lot of money from transit oriented development just as well. The problem is, that it is in many places plain illegal to develop in such a way and car oriented development is heavily encoraged by regulatiry means and heavy subsidies. There is also a lack in expertise on all levels, in comoanies but also among authorities, in doin stuff any other way than car-only suburbia.

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    I’m reminded of people making fun of ‘The Art of War’ for having advice like “feed your troops”.

    This is why ‘The Art of War’ was written, for complete morons with no understanding of reality but put in charge of an army.

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    somewhat embarrassing

    no this is 100% mortification levels of embarrassment. you couldn’t make propaganda that effective if you tried.

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      Well they will just call it a liberal conspiracy, and 50% of Americans will believe them

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    Classic military diet at the end of an empire’s reign. The corruption is so deep that the logistics to feeding their invading army while out on deployment are all but collapsed due to communications failures, inefficient funding, being belligerent to the countries who supply you food while abroad, etc.

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      Also, try to get something made here anymore, we don’t have the infrastructure to develop a lot of those skills anymore.

      Our entire manufacturing industry rested on its laurels for fifty years. We sort of assumed the miracle was cheap labor (money in America is still upset about whole emancipation thing).

      Super high dollar mossles were the only thing we had left and I think we just realized how the balance of Military power is also shifting.

      So unless we WW3 everyone else, or stir up the continent and get them to do it again, we would have to do serious work and we don’t have those akillsets either. Think about our bave new Iraq.

      Half a century of bad leadership has had an effect.

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        Part of the issue for industry in the US as well is that we also generally lack a lot of important manufacturing resources. We get something like 65% of our aluminum from Canada. When the tariffs were first going into effect and Trump was throwing a tantrum about Canada, the auto industry declared that they would be shutting down factories within a couple of months if the tariffs went into effect because they wouldn’t be able to afford the aluminum to continue production in the country.

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        And industry certainly didn’t have to. Whilst Trump is wrong about the effects of trade deficit, he wasn’t wrong about it posing problems for US. Trade deficit isn’t a bad thing, because if done wisely import is essentially foreign investment in domestic production.

        The fact that US manufacturers struggle is another way Trump represents the US: the US personified is a horrible short-sighted businessman that can’t get ahead with decades of a head start and endless investment pouring in.

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        Our entire manufacturing industry rested on its laurels for fifty years.

        It didn’t fall asleep, it grew legs and walked overseas.

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          It didn’t fall asleep, it grew legs and walked overseas.

          Legs that were supplied by Wall Street (at a profit, of course)

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    The best ways to turn military against you is a) don’t pay them, b) don’t feed them, and c) don’t give a damn about the survival of the soldiers.

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      I’m not so sure - the Republicans tend to treat veterans like absolute shit and yet, the military seems to have its share of conservatives that cannot stop humping the legs of Republicans.

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        That’s because most people don’t realize that only 18% of veterans get the full benefits they’re entitled to.

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          Even the ones that realize that are dense enough to think they will be one of the 18%

          Its the same reason conservatives are often class traitors. They think they will get lucky and be a billionaire someday.

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        oh its not by accident, gop/DNC sources alot of them from more conservative areas where the education is poor and likely ecominic situation is equally bad, they tend to be white. next demographics are middle-low POC areas where they arnt poor but not rich enough to pay tuition for college fully, its probably some collusion going on with 4 year universities and expensive colleges or mid-tier.

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      C is always selected. b) just feed them barely, so they dont revolt even if its low-grade slop. a)they pay them very low, but enough for not to revolt or try to leave the service.

      also provide them clean sanitation, apparently they wernt doing that on one of the warships.

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    I can only imagine how a soldier must feel like when they get to eat stuff like that, and then they are fighting a war that is so dramatically unpopular at home, and all it seems to do it make everything more expensive.

    I would think retention is going to become a major problem for the US military.

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      I would think retention is going to become a major problem for the US military.

      If it didn’t stop them in the last decades it won’t bother them now.

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    This is a huge fucking problem, one that’s about 100x as severe if you’re hearing this happen the first time.

    While fighting forces normally have their advantages/disadvantages compared to their opponents, food abundance or scarcity can make a strategic difference. See the psychological effect of the USN ice cream ship in WW2, listen to Ryan McBeth comparing his rations to what his Egyptian comrades called “army meat”…

    Hell, in my own personal experience in Basic Training (had an award-winning kitchen) vs NCO school (food supply didn’t work out, had to bring your own breakfast before the march), basic supply can be the difference between enthusiastic service and a refusal to train. And this was the same unit.

    The magnitude of the US’ fuckup in this war (the whole war tbh) has still not become fully perceivable. History books will be talking about this in the tone of “as devastating Vietnam was for US foreign policy, the coffin nails hammered in in 2026 became the harbingers of the US empire’s accellerated fall”… or sth like that.

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      The only safe supply ports would be in Pakistan or (much further away) India. It’s likely Pakistan doesn’t want to be seen helping US fleet. India has been receiving Iranian oil during conflict, and would like to keep it that way in addition to it being a long resupply route.

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        Iran also just attacked some indian ships transiting the strait, so there’s that fun complicating factor…

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    Is this for real? The pentagon has like a trillion dollar budget and yet somehow can’t feed soldiers? Wtf is this clown shit ass corruption?

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      Wtf is this clown shit ass corruption?

      That’s exactly what it is.

      You elect clowns, you get a circus.

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        You’ve put the cart before the house.

        Washington DC is a circus that attracts clowns

        p.s. oops i meant horse

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          I think this is very correct but slightly off. I think its that clowns have no shame. People with shame are repelled by by power so over time DC has slowly filled with clowns as reasonable people slowly leave in shame.

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      Yeah, how can the richest country in the world with the biggest military budget do this shit to the people they really depend on?

      Just look at the private sector in contrast. This country mints more billionaires than anywhere else while treating workers AND customers like shit and-- oh wait.

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        Have you not seen how often Trump has disrespected the millitary?

        It’s mind-boggling that he gets away with it, even while everyday Americans reflexively say “thank you for your service” any time they encounter a soldier or veteran.

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          while everyday Americans reflexively say “thank you for your service”

          I guess flags and pleading allegiance at schools has its effects.

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          Yeah I have. It’s bonkers, but it is also indicative of our culture. sadly. That’s why I made a joke comparing the government’s exploitation and mistreatment of military members with the rest of the economy’s exploitation and mistreatment of all the other normal people. In both cases, the people in power are choosing “number goes up a little bit faster than before” over “human life and well being” repeatedly.

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      They blew through their budget like crazy the first few weeks of the war.

      They’re asking car dealerships if they can help manufacturer missiles.

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      How can you grift money while supplying great meals to the troops? The leadership in the USA loves the war and hates the troops.

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    This shits funny. They blew through millions of dollars to buy lobster and luxuries for the Pentagon staff. Soldiers get shit. Hopefully they get the idea that they aren’t cared for either.

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      Hopefully they get the idea that they aren’t cared for either.

      Fragging intensifies…

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    The really sad thing- a ground soldier forward deployed on a battlefield eating MRE kits in a trench would get a significantly better meal than this.

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      Even the dreaded “Cheese and Vegetable Omelet” would be better then what was shown. There are not enough calories in that “meal” shown above to do much, let alone operate a war ship.

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    So, they sent their navy to the middle East with no plans on establishing or maintaining a supply line?

    This is hilarious levels of incompetence.

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    I mean, this is horrific, I can really only identify the carrots as actual food, but what do US military personnel think their government thinks of them when they treat their veterans like they do? Their veterans get treated like scum. Their current Secretary of Defense literally ran multiple veteran support scam companies. How can active soldiers not see that thats how they will be treated when they become veterans? The fact that the military isn’t marching on Washington to arrest the executive and the complicit portion of the legislative branch tells me they are not enlisting their best and brightest.

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      The thing in the lower right is a overcooked hamburger patty. But the grey thing… that’s what’s stumping me.

      I thought it was fish at first, but it’s the wrong texture for that. Then maybe re-fried beans… but why/how would they be shaped like that? About the only thing I can think of given the shape/texture is some sort of polenta?

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          shudder

          Chicken nuggets are processed meat. Spam is. Lunch meat is. Most ham is.

          It’s gonna be marginal quality because of how military contracts go, but processed meat is not the problem.

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            Oh man, you know what those all have in common? They’re not just called processed meat slabs. I eat a lot of tofu, but I don’t want to eat something gray and shiny called a processed fermented bean slab.

            If they could call it anything else, they would

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              Interesting.

              You require a cute name for food before you will eat it? Because calling it “mechanically separated chicken” doesn’t work for you, but “chicken nuggets” does.

              Well, if having to lie to yourself to make food delicious works for you, more power to you.

              I, on the other hand, am firmly aware of what I’m eating. I don’t need anyone to lie to me about it.

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                I, on the other hand, am firmly aware of what I’m eating.

                And completely unaware of the role that plays in most people’s enjoyment of food. Being a weirdo is no excuse to dismiss the experiences of others.

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                Interesting. I don’t think I mentioned “chicken nuggets” working for me, let alone the rest of that, but I wouldn’t want to suggest that you’re responding to a whole lot of things I didn’t say.

                Perhaps I’m just not worthy of responding to such an idol of pragmatism.

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        Terribly cooked donair meat? The slice shape and texture reminded me of that but the colour yeesh.

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      They might have thought they were not going to get the speedrun to the treatment you are (rightly) pointing out.

      But yes, the jingoist conservative-lovin’ goofballs that are in the military, part of military families etc, should take a good look at how Republicans tend to treat them on the backend.