Yes a lot of how we see satan in iconography or whatever came out of the renaissance, but the idea of a place of torture in the afterlife has its roots in Greek mythology. (Specifically, Tartarus,)
That said, Jesus definitely conceived of a place of eternal torture for people who didn’t agree that he was all that.
Hell is absolutely biblical, in the new testament. For example it’s discussed in Matthew and second Peter. It’s not a thing in the Hebrew bible. Dante’s hell is not biblical in the least.
Where? The only one I can think of is Jesus saying there’s a place where there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth, which could easily be the DMV or the Internet
He speaks of Gehenna (geennē, γέεννα in Greek). Properly “The Valley of The Sons of Hinnom”, a place (according to the BDAG) where the final judgment was to take place and the unbelievers would be thrown into the lake of fire.
Every instance of the word “hell” in an English bible comes from a completely different word in the Hebrew and Greek, ones with meanings like “the grave.” Jesus does spin a parable about Hades once. The same Hades portrayed the Disney cartoon Hercules. It is still not “hell,” though.
Yes, “Hell” in the Hebrew bible is Sheol, which is more like “the grave” or “underworld”, though the HALOT notes the root is uncertain.
Gehenna, though, as seen in Matthew, is the place where the final judgment was supposed to occur and the unbelievers would be thrown into the lake of fire.
Gehenna — Valley of Hinnom — is a real-world place. At the time of Jesus, it had a horrifying reputation as a place of human child sacrifice to pagan gods. A place of death and evil shunned by YHWH.
Didn’t Jeremiah have something about a lake of fire or something or was that just the desolation supposed to follow Jerusalem, I am not the best bibblical scholar I just start cults for fun
Most of what christians mentally picture their afterlife to be was written by a 14th century Italian mad-lad with a chip on his sholder and an axe to grind with multiple popes. Its all sorta blended together these days.
Ill give the other abrahamic cults credit for their attenpts at maintaining a faithful translation or opting to not officially do one at all. Makes keeping track of who believes what easier.
As a recovering Catholic, it is doubly funny because hell is not even biblical.
The renaissance period is responsible for hell and the visualization of Satan.
It was more the Greeks.
Yes a lot of how we see satan in iconography or whatever came out of the renaissance, but the idea of a place of torture in the afterlife has its roots in Greek mythology. (Specifically, Tartarus,)
That said, Jesus definitely conceived of a place of eternal torture for people who didn’t agree that he was all that.
How many cats did you have to make you finally realize you were Catholic? Did you have to rehab and give all the cats away?
Ah! I see you’ve read the Bible and like most people it led you straight to atheism!
Hell is absolutely biblical, in the new testament. For example it’s discussed in Matthew and second Peter. It’s not a thing in the Hebrew bible. Dante’s hell is not biblical in the least.
Where? The only one I can think of is Jesus saying there’s a place where there’s wailing and gnashing of teeth, which could easily be the DMV or the Internet
He speaks of Gehenna (geennē, γέεννα in Greek). Properly “The Valley of The Sons of Hinnom”, a place (according to the BDAG) where the final judgment was to take place and the unbelievers would be thrown into the lake of fire.
Every instance of the word “hell” in an English bible comes from a completely different word in the Hebrew and Greek, ones with meanings like “the grave.” Jesus does spin a parable about Hades once. The same Hades portrayed the Disney cartoon Hercules. It is still not “hell,” though.
Yes, “Hell” in the Hebrew bible is Sheol, which is more like “the grave” or “underworld”, though the HALOT notes the root is uncertain.
Gehenna, though, as seen in Matthew, is the place where the final judgment was supposed to occur and the unbelievers would be thrown into the lake of fire.
Gehenna — Valley of Hinnom — is a real-world place. At the time of Jesus, it had a horrifying reputation as a place of human child sacrifice to pagan gods. A place of death and evil shunned by YHWH.
Didn’t Jeremiah have something about a lake of fire or something or was that just the desolation supposed to follow Jerusalem, I am not the best bibblical scholar I just start cults for fun
Most of what christians mentally picture their afterlife to be was written by a 14th century Italian mad-lad with a chip on his sholder and an axe to grind with multiple popes. Its all sorta blended together these days.
Ill give the other abrahamic cults credit for their attenpts at maintaining a faithful translation or opting to not officially do one at all. Makes keeping track of who believes what easier.