At the press conference, David Reevely from The Logic asked Joly how the money for an American company’s subsidiary jibed with the government’s “elbows up” message.
Since the announcement of the Defence Industrial Strategy, Canada has said it will spend billions on missile systems from Lockheed Martin. National Defence Minister David McGuinty has also argued that Palantir Canada — a branch of the American billionaire-founded artificial intelligence company working with Israel — is a Canadian company.
Eighty-two per cent said Canada should “defend itself without relying too heavily on other countries,” the poll found. U.S. companies, including those operating subsidiaries in Canada, were the least favoured.
Just like with the majority foreign-owned fossil fuel industry in Alberta, ‘our’ Government will give money to foreign/US corporations and sell it to us (with no questions asked by mainstream media) as ‘sovereignty’. Obviously anyone who thinks the CPC offers something better for working Canadians is delusional
Pratt & Whitney is genuinely and substantially Canadian in every way except ultimate ownership. PW does its own research, development, marketing, and manufacturing of its engines. They aren’t taking American designs and building them on Canadian soil, own owns its own product lines outright.
The PT6 turboprop is a workhorse engine and wholly Canadian. The Longueuil facility employs 4500 workers, it’s deeply woven into Quebec’s history. They recently invested $275 million into facility and have long supported Canadian aviation.
It’s shocking how many of the leftists that hate fake news and sensationalism are falling for it readily when they want their own narrative to be true. This is not news, it’s not a grift, it’s not a lie, it’s not a conspiracy. It is fake news and bullshit to push an Anti-Canadian agenda.
I posit that the definitive test is to ask the question ‘If a foreign entity could order the closure of the plant, is it Canadian owned and controlled?’
And if this is accepted as a test, then the question becomes ‘Could a foreign entity order the closure of P&W?’
To answer your question they can’t really do that. Certain industries are deemed important to national interest. Google MDA and their purchase by Maxar and what ensued. MDA is still a Canadian company today.
But my test would still hold. Foreign entity cannot close it, so it is Canadian controlled.
It’s fair to outline legitimately Canadian aspects of P&W. It’s not fair to label those concerned about its American ownership as being Anti-Canadian or fake news
This article is an opinion piece posing as legitimate news. The criticism is short sighted and problematic. The article serves no purpose beyond pushing a false narrative. Its 100% Anti-Canadian to do the minimum research to blast PW when they have been a Canadian and Québécois institution for the last century.
Again, no: pointing out concern about whether giving a US-owned company money is good for Canada is, by definition, not anti-Canadian
It takes two seconds to google PW and realize this is nonsense. Sounds like a bunch of people talk about things they don’t understand rather than deferring to an expert.
you have no defence beyond, I’m just asking questions
So america has all our data since the parent company has to abide by American data requests no matter where the host is or what their countries laws are. As Microsoft has already stated. But every country seems to be ignoring that and still going with American companies.
Not palantir. He’s everywhere
It’s always a grift with these types. Only an ideologue that would stand against private international capital and really invest domestically would do the thing for real. Sovereign defence means creating the specialists across the stack from R&D through engineering and manufacturing, in Canada. Then creating the local industry that makes the things we need to make. Only then we’ll get the meaningful decoupling Canadians seem to want, along with any military keynesianism benefits for this spending. But that’ll take years to decades of consistent public industrial policy to achieve. Otherwise we’re just padding the pockets of American capital. Barring that, buying from RTX and Palantir’s Canadian subs is just business as usual with sovereign marketing, in the hope people don’t perceive the gov’t as not standing up for Canada while betting we won’t have to use those weapons as a deterrent against the US. In other words, elbows up marketing, while waiting for the US to “get back to normal.”
I’m absolutely not defending military industrial complex spending but do people understand the aerospace industry? The canadian owned companies are using PWC engines. Bombardier and De Havilland both use them (the two companies that come to mind when I think of canadian ownership). Magellan makes engine parts…does that count?
It all comes back the the Avro Arrow, and the dismantling of the Canadian aviation manufacturing industry that followed.
The Progressive Conservative party has always been backdoor funded by US interests. The US MIC wanted no competition, so Diefenbaker shut down Avro, as he was told to. He was right to cancel the Arrow, but he didn’t need to shut down Avro.
Regan wanted cheaper manufacturing for Detroit, so Mulroney was put in to make NAFTA happen. Since Lil PP is a proven dud, Jirvani is next, architect of that charity scam in Ohio with his buddy JD Vance.
Let us never forget that it was the Conservatives that shut down our own military development and sold our defence contracts to the US.
The party doesn’t matter. Historically the Canadian conservatives have been the anti-US party.
It was the US forcing us. Ever since we formed they have acted as though they have authority over us. The fear of that is why no one wanted independence.
The most recent example was the World Cup, the US just decided the unprofitable matches would be paid for by Canada and Mexico.
Historically like how far back are we talking? Because for the last half century they’ve been pretty damned pro-us-business.
You’re right that both parties are, so party doesn’t really matter, but it seems disingenuous to characterize the conservatives (not a specific party, conservative parties in general) as being especially or uniquely anti-usa in their actions, since the start of the cold war.
The 70s is when it really changed, a reaction to the recession, but even 10-20 years ago we can CANZUK to reunite with the crown and escape US hegemony.
I don’t think that canzuk is a great example, since it’s not really opposed strongly by the other parties, and also it’s a free trade agreement and conservatives will agree to any free trade agreement with anyone; it’s not really especially anti-usa or uniquely conservative.
To be fair, Trudeau was adamantly against it because it weakened the US position but he was more right wing than typical Liberals so it doesn’t play into historic trends.
You say that like the Tories were anti US out of some high minded principles. They just had a different empire they were cozying up to before. They were anti US because they were monarchists. They bent the knee to Britain, and when Britain went down they found new boots to kiss. The Tories never believed in Canada.
If you read the 2nd part I posited a very pro Britain sentiment.
