Watching this as a European, it’s wild how blatantly hard this “news” anchor repeatedly tries to twist the guys words to make him sound like he’s saying something he’s not.
Like the guy’s being perfectly reasonable in almost every point:
We’re all paying taxes for healthcare benefits, why are we not all getting access to them?
The US treats illegal immigration with a bizare level of criminality. Unless there’s violence involved, then its a civil matrer, so why are militarised bloodthirsty hounds being set upon these people?
Speaking of which… ICE are litterally going around in masks, racially profiling and detaining and killing US citizens. Why are they not being held to account?
It actually makes me happy to see that anchor squirm when the guy brought up Donald Trump being a pedo and the pushing under the rug of the Epstein files.
Because Fox News is not, nor has it ever been, an actual news outlet.
They are GOP/Oligarch/Israel/Russia/etc funded US state propaganda. They were founded and are owned by a fascist Australian businessman (Rupert Murdoch) who owns other outlets like Sky News.
TV rules are weird in the US. This is going to be simplified, but essentially it’s accurate as I understand it. Because of the first amendment guarantees of freedom of speech and freedom of the press, the government can’t actually tell you what you can and can’t say.
Except in the case of broadcast television. Because the way the law works, the right to use those radio signals is owned by the government and granted to companies. So the FCC gets to decide what you can and cannot say on a broadcast television channel.
Fox News is not a broadcast channel, it is a cable channel. So the government doesn’t get to tell them shit and they can get away with whatever they want.
The other bullshit is, “news” channels have to abide by rules and regulations against bias and misinformation. Every time Fox News gets sued for something like that, they say, “We’re not “news” we’re “entertainment media”, no reasonable person would take anything we say as fact” to avoid being regulated or held accountable. This was their entire defense in the Tucker Carlson v Dominion Voting case
Then they should be banned from using the world “News”.
Not even the Daily Show uses it and it’s way more informative and accurate toppled only by Last Week Tonight.
There was a graph going around during Stewart’s first stewardship of the Daily Show, listing how well viewers of various news programs scored on a test of current affairs. The Daily Show came in third, ahead of every single “real” news channel save PBS and NPR. A comedy program is a more reliable news source than the actual news!
I remember that, fox news wasn’t just near the bottom. The study showed that fox news viewers were actually LESS informed about current events than people who watched the daily show exclusively.
You’re confusing Defamation law and the repealed “Equal Time” rule.
There are currently no rules about what is and isn’t news.
There are laws about what is and isn’t defamation. Whenever Fox gets sued for Defamation, they bring out the “we’re entertainment not news, so no one should believe us” line.
The UK public in general has known to avoid any Murdoch-owned UK news outlet since said outlets hacked people of interest’s phones in 2011, and many folk learned just what an oligopolistic pos Murdoch is and how the bias of his companies shouldn’t be trusted. I assume the majority has forgotten or doesn’t care, but they had the opportunity to know and avoid Murdoch corporations.
Murdoch killed the British newspaper unions because he took out a loan to establish FOX in America, and he used the salaries of the workers for his British papers to pay for it.
Honestly, he should’ve been laughed out of business the moment he established the misogynistic and pedo-like page three girl.
Our media here has been captive for decades. And it’s not just Fox News (though they’re the most obvious as they don’t really bother trying to cover it up).
They’re all so terrified of losing access that they never hold anyone’s feet to the fire, or even ask follow up questions after blatant lies.
Yeah, the most blatant example of this is national debates. On the topic of healthcare I’ve not seen a national debate that hasn’t framed universal healthcare “questions” as some sort of extremely expensive unaffordable luxury that will make jesus cry because it’s communist.
IE “Mister Sanders, you support universal healthcare which our analysts say will cost 1 trillion dollars and will cause insurance companies to go bankrupt costing thousands of jobs. How will you solve these problems?” (not exact, but pretty close).
Watching this as a European, it’s wild how blatantly hard this “news” anchor repeatedly tries to twist the guys words to make him sound like he’s saying something he’s not.
Like the guy’s being perfectly reasonable in almost every point:
We’re all paying taxes for healthcare benefits, why are we not all getting access to them?
The US treats illegal immigration with a bizare level of criminality. Unless there’s violence involved, then its a civil matrer, so why are militarised bloodthirsty hounds being set upon these people?
Speaking of which… ICE are litterally going around in masks, racially profiling and detaining and killing US citizens. Why are they not being held to account?
It actually makes me happy to see that anchor squirm when the guy brought up Donald Trump being a pedo and the pushing under the rug of the Epstein files.
Because Fox News is not, nor has it ever been, an actual news outlet.
They are GOP/Oligarch/Israel/Russia/etc funded US state propaganda. They were founded and are owned by a fascist Australian businessman (Rupert Murdoch) who owns other outlets like Sky News.
Which is great for them because they can keep saying that while pretending to be news.
And isn’t that what the FCC is bitching about, when it comes to other networks?
TV rules are weird in the US. This is going to be simplified, but essentially it’s accurate as I understand it. Because of the first amendment guarantees of freedom of speech and freedom of the press, the government can’t actually tell you what you can and can’t say.
Except in the case of broadcast television. Because the way the law works, the right to use those radio signals is owned by the government and granted to companies. So the FCC gets to decide what you can and cannot say on a broadcast television channel.
Fox News is not a broadcast channel, it is a cable channel. So the government doesn’t get to tell them shit and they can get away with whatever they want.
The other bullshit is, “news” channels have to abide by rules and regulations against bias and misinformation. Every time Fox News gets sued for something like that, they say, “We’re not “news” we’re “entertainment media”, no reasonable person would take anything we say as fact” to avoid being regulated or held accountable. This was their entire defense in the Tucker Carlson v Dominion Voting case
Then they should be banned from using the world “News”.
Not even the Daily Show uses it and it’s way more informative and accurate toppled only by Last Week Tonight.
There was a graph going around during Stewart’s first stewardship of the Daily Show, listing how well viewers of various news programs scored on a test of current affairs. The Daily Show came in third, ahead of every single “real” news channel save PBS and NPR. A comedy program is a more reliable news source than the actual news!
(Fox was near the bottom, as one would expect.)
I remember that, fox news wasn’t just near the bottom. The study showed that fox news viewers were actually LESS informed about current events than people who watched the daily show exclusively.
IIRC Fox scored well below people who reported watching no news at all.
You’re confusing Defamation law and the repealed “Equal Time” rule.
There are currently no rules about what is and isn’t news.
There are laws about what is and isn’t defamation. Whenever Fox gets sued for Defamation, they bring out the “we’re entertainment not news, so no one should believe us” line.
CBS, on the other hand, is broadcast. And look now easily that was captured.
IIRC he was owner of Sky News until 2019. Not so coincidentally, the journalistic integrity of Sky News shot up afterward though remains questionable.
The UK public in general has known to avoid any Murdoch-owned UK news outlet since said outlets hacked people of interest’s phones in 2011, and many folk learned just what an oligopolistic pos Murdoch is and how the bias of his companies shouldn’t be trusted. I assume the majority has forgotten or doesn’t care, but they had the opportunity to know and avoid Murdoch corporations.
Should’ve been wary of it before.
Murdoch killed the British newspaper unions because he took out a loan to establish FOX in America, and he used the salaries of the workers for his British papers to pay for it.
Honestly, he should’ve been laughed out of business the moment he established the misogynistic and pedo-like page three girl.
Alas this hasn’t happened in Australia
Small correction: Fox News is a news outlet. They run news and then bullshit around the news, but their actual news is more or less solid AFAIK.
No, they literally testified to congress that it wasn’t news but “entertainment”
Our media here has been captive for decades. And it’s not just Fox News (though they’re the most obvious as they don’t really bother trying to cover it up).
They’re all so terrified of losing access that they never hold anyone’s feet to the fire, or even ask follow up questions after blatant lies.
It’s frankly embarrassing.
Yeah, the most blatant example of this is national debates. On the topic of healthcare I’ve not seen a national debate that hasn’t framed universal healthcare “questions” as some sort of extremely expensive unaffordable luxury that will make jesus cry because it’s communist.
IE “Mister Sanders, you support universal healthcare which our analysts say will cost 1 trillion dollars and will cause insurance companies to go bankrupt costing thousands of jobs. How will you solve these problems?” (not exact, but pretty close).