[purple, happy]
You know how sometimes you don’t want to keep consuming media after finding out who wrote it?

[blue, a finger raised]
Sure, people would say you’re having a hard time separating the art from the artist

[purple, distraught]
Well the other day I was reading this book called “Mein Kampf” which was alright, then I looked up the author’s bio on Wikipedia and… damn

[blue, blasé]


https://thebad.website/comic/advanced_media_literacy

  • Tattorack@lemmy.world
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    An artist is not a machine who just prints stuff. When an artist makes something, regardless of what it is they’re making, their feelings, experiences, teachings, worldview, and personal beliefs/opinions shape the art they make.

    If you take those things away you have an AI generator. No music, writing, poetry, rapping, drawing, painting, or even corporate logo design can exist without the events, influences, and decisions of the one making these things.

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      4 days ago

      An artist is not a machine who just prints stuff

      No. But I didn’t question that. I just don’t care if this music I like was made by AI, Adolf Hitler or Or two gay penguins. I value art for what it is to me, not what someone wants it to be. I don’t look behind the curtain.

      If you take those things away you have an AI generator

      Nah. I am the living proof. I consume the front, pay for it (mostly) and everyone is happy. And behold! The artist is still there, even without me caring. Might he do whatever he does to create the stuff I like.

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        An artist who is a terrible person draws from those elements that make him a terrible person to make art. If you’re selectively choosing to ignore where that comes from then you yourself are a terrible person.

        However, you have already more or less admitted that by saying you do nothing but consume.

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          So, you, a very smart person, would only admire art, for which you exactly, and personally, know the artists intentions, moral compass and general ethics? That does not only sound pretentious but also hypocritical and deeply impractical.

          As if you’d know every artists fucking life-story. And, by your logic, you mustn’t consume otherwise. Missing knowledge doesn’t protect.

          And yes, I only consume. What else do you do with a e.g. painting? Rub one out in front of it? Pray to the art-god? Write letters of admiration to the artist, scented with your perfume? I just hang it on the wall and admire it for what it is. Art.

          Also…a bit simplistic to just assume a “terrible person” draws exclusively from terrible sources to create art. As if people are black or white. And also, who on this earth is not a terrible person in the end? How clean and “good” are you hm? Do you spend every minute to help those less fortunate than you? Do you not profit from childlabour and slavery when purchasing goods that aren’t made by your neighbor while you were watching? Thought so.

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            As if you’d know every artists fucking life-story.

            As if not being a religious bigot, sexist, abuser, fascist, apartheid apologist, corporate bootlicker, or war criminal is such a high bar.

            Assume so.

            Fixed.

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              As if not being a religious bigot, sexist, abuser, fascist, apartheid apologist, corporate bootlicker, or war criminal is such a high bar.

              If only i said it was a high bar. Surely is not. But you can never know, except what the artist wants you to know. So by your own logic you have to boycott every art unless you have proof the artist is “clean”. Interesting, that a “corporate bootlicker” is worse for you than a hypocrite that’s abusing slave-countries for their cheap work to type a comment to someone what a cultural swine he is :-) You’re just holier than thou.

              Fixed.

              Nope. Not assumed, it’s pretty obvious. Otherwise I couldn’t read your comment as you would sit in the woods, being self-sufficient, crafting wood-figures and talking to squirrels for company.

              PS: Don’t forget the downvote, this will show me my place!

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                So by your own logic you have to boycott every art unless you have proof the artist is “clean”.

                No that’s not my logic. That’s entirely your own doing. The question of “separating the art from the artist” is always brought up when the artist is known to be a scumbag.

                You’re just holier than thou.

                Barely a challenge with you.