Tbh with the sheer scale of America I doubt even mass starvation will work. The government could probably just keep the states immediately around the capitol sated and leave the rest of the country to die and most people won’t be able to afford travel to the capitol to riot. I bring this up in every thread but to travel from the west coast to Maryland to start a riot is the same distance as traveling from Ireland to Moscow to riot. And we have barely functional trains.
I mean… it literally can. Only ~20 states have their own State Defense Force and the federal government can turn any state’s national guard on its own people. The national guard has been actively leveraged to help ICE brutalize and disappear immigrants and American citizens already.
Also if we were to consume Gavin Newsom, for example, that does not help us get a functional federal government back.
I mean. “The Hunger Games” is a real book and series that kind of thoroughly shows just how fucked the United States of America is.
It even matches your point. They lavish food and gifts on the first two districts (District 1 producing luxery goods, and District 2 producing police/armed forces). Then tie the rest into fighting amongst themselves over measly leftovers.
Still didn’t last terribly long or peacefully, but multiple generations is still a gut punch.
Tbh with the sheer scale of America I doubt even mass starvation will work. The government could probably just keep the states immediately around the capitol sated and leave the rest of the country to die and most people won’t be able to afford travel to the capitol to riot. I bring this up in every thread but to travel from the west coast to Maryland to start a riot is the same distance as traveling from Ireland to Moscow to riot. And we have barely functional trains.
Well there are local governments. The federal government can’t exert it’s control by itself.
I mean… it literally can. Only ~20 states have their own State Defense Force and the federal government can turn any state’s national guard on its own people. The national guard has been actively leveraged to help ICE brutalize and disappear immigrants and American citizens already.
Also if we were to consume Gavin Newsom, for example, that does not help us get a functional federal government back.
so the asumption here is that the US military will just roll into fascism and against the people no questions asked?
Is there any kind of indication that they won’t?
I mean. “The Hunger Games” is a real book and series that kind of thoroughly shows just how fucked the United States of America is.
It even matches your point. They lavish food and gifts on the first two districts (District 1 producing luxery goods, and District 2 producing police/armed forces). Then tie the rest into fighting amongst themselves over measly leftovers.
Still didn’t last terribly long or peacefully, but multiple generations is still a gut punch.