• lil_baka@ani.social
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    24 hours ago

    a small manageable risk

    How is it manageable from individual pov? It’s more like a lottery. Maybe from big numbers pov it reduces mortality over those small time spans that were studied. There’s still no data for really long time spans, because not even 10 years have passed, and the worst case scenarios for person outside of high risk group seems to be worse than contracting virus.

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      22 hours ago

      There is no “long term”. mRNA degrades in your body after a few days. Your immune system remembers the spike proteins. End of story. This isn’t even college level biology.

      mRNA has been in development and testing for over 3 decades. The first trials were 2 decades ago. We have enough information, you just continue to choose to be obstinate and ignorant about this.

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        6 hours ago

        There is no “long term”.

        You don’t know what you don’t know. As an example, scientists have been studying biology for hundreds of years and only recently noticed some new weird viral like entities that were completely ignored before, and it’s unknown what their effect could be.

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      21 hours ago

      There’s enough time passed to show that if you catch the virus you have a significantly increased risk of all long term complications vs the vaccine. Again just look up the statistics and research. The primary field I’m aware of is heart complications where those who have taken the vaccine show double digit reductions in long term heart complications vs those who have not. Arstechnica.com has a good write up on it that I have linked below, but basically every legitimate peer reviewed study is fairly aligned on the health outcomes of the vaccine being positive stacked against the virus in wide populations. You, as an individual, do not get to choose if you live in a population so your personal assessed risk factor does not really matter because it’s entirely subjective and based on things you cannot measure.

      https://arstechnica.com/health/2026/06/covid-vaccines-still-protect-against-heart-problems-large-study-finds/

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        7 hours ago

        So, if I’m reading this correctly, even if you get vaccine:

        • there’s 74% chance it won’t prevent COVID-19–associated emergency department/urgent care encounters
        • there’s 65% chance it won’t prevent COVID-19–associated hospitalization
        • there’s 59% chance it won’t prevent COVID-19–associated critical illness

        Add to this the fact that it’s also not forever and you need to get revaxxed every so often, and the fact that covid was almost non-existant for at least 3 years, and I don’t see why even bother especially considering there’s already paxlovid, remdesivir, molnupiravir, etc.

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          5 hours ago

          It’s a lot easier of a choice now that it’s endemic and there are drugs, but long term complications are still common with Covid so it’s more of a gamble than the vaccine. You’re also not reading it correctly but I don’t really care to explain risk factors to you.