• Vikthor@piefed.world
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    1 day ago

    No government can wage a war for twelve years against wishes of their own population.

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        8 hours ago

        Ok? They might, if they wanted they could have adopted one of the European healthcare models a long time ago.

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      How do you explain the US wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan?

      The US population elected a president who was promising to end the Afghanistan War in 2008. That war ended in 2021. That’s at least 12 years of war against the wishes of the majority.

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        How do you explain the US wars in Vietnam and Afghanistan?

        The Americans were asking for it. Did you see how they were dressed?

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        Good question. For most of those years (goes for both wars) they just straight up lied about how bad things were going. Then there’s the propaganda. Holy hell, so much propaganda. Like not saying you’re wrong by asking that question but there are ways of selling unpopular wars.

        Added to this, capitalists fucking LOVE wars. And without breaking capitalism all they’re really going to do about the majority coming out against war is say ‘yeah, what the fuck are you gonna do about it then?’

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          32 minutes ago

          capitalists fucking LOVE wars

          Wait, I thought China was capitalist?

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              Yeah, that’s the idea! China is capitalist but

              capitalists fucking LOVE wars

              And China hasn’t fired on a ship since 1988 and hasn’t dropped a bomb in a conflict since 1989.

              So is it that capitalists love wars or that China isn’t capitalist? I’m confused

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        19 hours ago

        Am I? In all those long conflicts the population was at first at least indifferent(Like the US in the Vietnam war or USSR in Afghanistan war) or outright supportive(Like the US in their Afghanistan war) and after the public opinion changed the wars quickly ended. On the other hand the tsar was deposed after less than 3 years of WWI.

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      15 hours ago

      I remember smug Americans scolding third worlders for having dictators run their countries, proudly claiming that they themselves were just better, more democratically inclined, which ofc led them to living in democracies. The third worlders just didn’t want democracy hard enough.

      Now Trump is president and they just lay down and take it.