• athatet@lemmy.zip
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    1 day ago

    Hey bud I don’t actually think you can get any further to the left than anarchism.

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      5 hours ago

      So two things worth mentioning IMO, one important, the other kinda pedantic but still important from a theory POV:

      1. Being the “furthest left” is not always the best tactic, and certainly not a strategy. If being far left means a practical program to unified liberation and resistance to capitalism, that’s great, I’m right there with you. But actual conditions are contradictory and constantly struggling to be the furthest left is sectarian/opportunist and not practical/critical.

      2. Capitalism contains anarchist elements, such as anarchy in production. There are right wing anarchists ho want to consolidate power by delegitimizing/eliminating social protections; not liberate the masses to self actualize, but liberate the individual to rob and oppress.

      I don’t make these point to attack you or anarchism, I work with anarchists and feel affinity with them, and I think they would agree with me on these points. But in my experience, the point is not to be the furthest left, but to have the best means to determine actual truth and teach others to think critically. In some ways, the left/right paradigm does more harm than good, even if it is useful in other contexts.

      • audrbox@beehaw.org
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        1 day ago

        Ironically, calling anarchism “disorganization” is almost always a result of capitalist/authoritarian propaganda about what anarchism is. Sorry you can’t conceive of a world where people organize themselves without the use of oppressive violence.

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          18 hours ago

          “Without a hierarchical authority system of a small group ‘directing’ the large group, the people can’t remain organized!” - every supposed “stateless”, “classless” ML.

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        1 day ago

        Incorrect. Anarchism is against unjust hierarchies. It can absolutely be organized.