• Semjeza@fedinsfw.app
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    2 days ago

    … Why would massively face conscious culture China care about face?

    You’ve got so much irony I can’t even tell what point you’re trying to make.

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      2 days ago

      No irony here. The way people in general on reddit and adjacent platforms (not you necessarily, just the way Chinese politics is spoken about) you’d think that the CPC can do whatever it pleases without care for anything. So which is it? And why are you so cynical about the genuineness of laws stating that all Chinese are equal, regardless of ethnicity?

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        2 days ago

        Oh, a lot of people know nothing about the PRC or China in general. It’s infuriating.
        Often either a utopia or the most evil and terrible distopia, blergh. It’s a place, full of myriad people, ideas, ways of being, and their own contradictions.

        I’m used to people assuming I’m at the other extreme pole, when really I’m just trying to complicate the picture and share a bit of what I learnt and saw while living in the PRC for several years - where I found something much more interesting than either idealised extreme.

        Edit: and in answer to your question: of course the CCP can’t do whatever it pleases without a care for anything. It’s too faction ridden, broad, and worried about 3rd roads, dissent, and popular unrest for that. It values stability, peaceful day to day living, and being able to return its side of the social contract. But that also means that small factions that could upset or displace the sense of harmony, such as traditional ethnic minority ways of life, habits, etc. are not given much time. They need to Modernise and Develop, like the rest regardless of what those people actually think, do, or want.
        Having spent a lot of time in Yunnan and Guizhou, I’ve seen enough of it myself, sadly.

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          2 days ago

          Thanks for the insight! That’s my idea of things, too. I’ve been here for a week now lol and it’s far from whichever evil reddit thinks it is.

          I need to read more and learn more, but so far I find myself preferring China to western oligarchy.