Audio from bystander video indicates 11 shots were fired before Wilson died from two gunshot wounds, while the department’s posted policy sharply restricts shooting at moving vehicles.
Always we focus on the cops and the shooting. What about we take a look at how the situation was even possible. Poor healthcare. And I mean that on both sides. A person who will shoot at a vehicle driving away has mental health issues as well. The system failed all of them.
damn I read the headline and thought it said the cops got fired and got my hopes up 😔
Nuts.
Someone attacked a vulnerable minority, she fought back, cuttin’ a bitch. She freaked out, drove away from police, and they shot her for it. There’s been no indication that she was ever a threat to these cops.
‘shoot first ask questions later’ is not policing. It is gross misconduct.
It is policing though. That’s what police are trained to do. They are trained to see us not as humans, but as threats.
Shot dead because this is MURiCAHHH. And we are sociopaths here. USA USA USA… 🤮
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To the idiot that downvoted, what other country have you heard of where police has shot a woman for defending herself?I don’t see votes. I recommend just turning them off in the ui, but some people might view your doomer satire as tiring and defeatist.
To the idiot that downvoted
I AM SPARTICUS!
To the idiot that downvoted
TBF, as someone else pointed out, people may click on up or down accidentally.
Also, sometimes there have been rather…hot takes. For instance, I’ve just asked the question about why AI data centers seem to be the one issue that galvanizes resistance, and that question was downvoted like a mofo, LOL.
France and they used us to say look into doesn’t happen as often than the US.
There’s also a tradition I remember fondly from smaller reddit communities of downvoting people who talk about votes, and I like to continue it here hehe. >:)
Seems like resistance to AI is religious here for some reason.
Usually I would write “almost” on such issues, but it’s so bad I can’t in good faith call it only almost.resistance to AI is religious here
A lot of us have an adversarial relationship with large, extractive corporations. AI is a disruptive technology, and sadly that means it usually disrupts power away from working people into the hands of fewer and fewer “elites” and their collaborators.
I’d say there are many well informed reasons to be against virtually (virtually) all use of AI in 202X.
I’d say there are many well informed reasons to be against virtually (virtually) all use of AI in 202X.
Absolutely, and I agree on that.
But most of what we hear is about ChatGPT and Claude. And I agree they are detrimental, and Grok is a joke.
However Deepseek was made for about the equivalent amount Meta uses on Catering, and maybe isn’t as disruptive, and doesn’t require those enormous datacenters either.
Just because the big ones are insanely harmful in many ways, doesn’t mean that AI can’t have value.There are use cases for AI that are actually beneficial, like detecting skin cancer more accurately.
I mean I was just honestly asking the question. I work in tech, and I hear the point/counterpoint on “AI” in the regular, although we don’t typically talk about the data centers themselves, more the pros and cons of the tools themselves.
But I’m just puzzled that the same people that literally were chanting, “drill baby drill”. They get excited about rolling coal and shutting down wind turbines and shitting on solar. They have wet dreams about “deregulating” companies that pollute AT SCALE while advocating for stupid things like coal to make a comeback. But now they are now…riled up about data centers?
I honestly just cannot understand it. Seriously. Because the impacts of things like coal-fired plants are going to be in their back yard, too, so it’s not just NIMBY-ism.
It is odd isn’t it? I think we have a perfect neologism for the phenomenon when we say their opinions are largely “vibes based” (as all opinions are to some degree).
So I think you’ve for NIMBY-ism, right-wing “virtue” signalling, fear of change, fear of scarcity, and imho most hopefully, an honest distrust of big businesses trying to make big disruptive projects without thinking about current workers and their current needs to earn an income for nigh existential reasons.
Sounds like a focus on jobs. Although renewable energy creates jobs, I think they’ve been brainwashed to think the opposite.
Some of the right seem to think that temporary jobs for data center build-outs will create long-term jobs, but apparently not all of them, or maybe they don’t think the “job creation” will outweigh the downsides.
I do wonder how much of it is still inertia from when these absolute idiots were unshakeable in their belief that Big Tech are all a bunch of liberals out to censor conservatives, and “cancel” conservatives and so on…the people that were certain there was a big conspiracy around Biden’s “laptop” (hard drive). The people that think that Elon really had to save Twitter from the tyranny of liberals running a tech company. 🤣
I think it’s because most people on Lemmy are technologically literate enough and over exposed enough to AI that’s it’s basically reached a stage where banning it is the default opinion. Personally I just think it’s a stupid waste of resources and want these fucking LLM companies to all go bankrupt.
Lemmy is also full of techies whose jobs have been cut or poisoned by AI
Who’s job has been cut by AI?
Well, AI-washing. It’s used as the excuse for layoffs (I know several people personally), but the leftovers have to work twice as hard to cover the gaps while training the LLMs to do that job too.
Personally I just think it’s a stupid waste of resources and want these fucking LLM companies to all go bankrupt.
100% with you on that. In 2000 I personally predicted that AI would approach human intelligence around 2030, but I never dreamed it would be this useless.
I’m a bit astonished that I nailed it so closely, it was purely based on estimating the compute power available, and that software would progress together with that. And the estimated power of AI at the time considered to be around the level of a bee.
But I must say I’m disappointed in the application of it, and the crazy raze to invest in andmonetize(attempting to monopolize) it. And how both capable and stupid it is at the same time.Honestly it being vaguely on par with the average person is in my opinion more of a statement on how fucking moronic the average person is than anything else, I’d quote George Carlin but that particular quote is pulled up so frequently so as to be repetitive so I won’t. Regardless I wouldn’t really call this current outcropping of chatbots to be AI but instead that they are VI or virtual intelligence close enough to trick most people on first contact but once you pick it apart enough you can figure it out quite fast. Though even then it’s still on the rather primitive side of the theoretical range
The sad part is that there are some bits of tech that started popping off around when this shit started to get popular that does have some really awesome potential such as acoustic diagnostics for machine or those systems that can detect cancer formation months or even years before a doctor could manually detect it. The thing is that while some of these systems may use language models or learning algorithms they basically have no overlap with shit like Chatgpt or Claude, but will almost certainly be hurt when the AI bubble pops just because they share some terminology.
Absolutely AI has good uses, ChatGPT and Claude are not representative for all of AI, but even they have good use cases. But the massive poorly planned build out of data centers is insane.
Here in Denmark new data centers are only allowed as we build out the grid with more renewable energy. And Denmark is a very popular country for data centers, exactly because we have a high degree of renewable energy.
As usual trans women are just seen as “acceptable” targets. Those cops have been itching to murder a minority and finally got what they saw as their opportunity. They knew what they were doing.
In a civilized country, that officer would be tried for murder.
I am not aware of any other democracy where the police can run around killing people at will and even in their homes, without being tried for murder.
When I write democracy I know USA is not really a democracy, but only a flawed democracy, or a 2nd rate democracy.“Representative democracy” - representative of the control freak rich holding the purse-strings that have long financed the vast majority of election campaigns.
The best democracies in the world are also representative. That is not the problem, the problem is that USA instead of improving regulation to reign in capitalism, has chosen to allow it to run wild taking over elections, and hasn’t improved on the flawed FPP system.
Some places have ranked voting, and hopefully they will be pointers to the future, but there’s a long way from where USA is currently to having any chance of that.I’m 100% in the ranked choice voting camp. And ideally, we’d find a way to do it proportionally but I acknowledge that would be a bit of a heavier lift within the current US framework, so I’d be happy with RCV as first step so we can work to elect folks that will help get the proportional aspect implemented.
For anyone who wants to know more, check out https://rcvresources.org/why-adopt-rcv and https://fairvote.org/our-reforms/proportional-ranked-choice-voting-information
And I also think we should have Democracy sausages! :) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_sausage)
People sleep on proportional representation but it would honestly be so much better than either FPTP or even ranked choice.
The problem is that to implement it here would probably require a constitutional convention and a complete restructuring of our electoral and representative systems. Which, yeah I don’t see that happening anytime soon and with the current government, if something big like that happened it would not have a good result.
So yeah, ranked choice to improve our elections until we have enough decent representation to implement proportional.
I mean it could still go by state, but we’d have to ditch the concept of districts. Each state could still have the same number of representatives that they already do, but instead of each district electing one rep, the whole state would vote, and the parties’ seats would be allocated by overall proportion of the vote they received.
It would be fairer for everybody, and eliminate gerrymandering. And it would enable more parties than just two. But yeah, it would require a constitutional amendment.
Oh and the Senate could either stay FPTP or have a set threshold for each seat. Like there’s two seats total, so if you get 50% of the vote you get a seat… but you shouldn’t get both seats just because you got 51% of the vote. So there needs to be a threshold, for the second seat, like maybe 67% or 75%. So then the threshold for the first seat would really be 33% or 25%. But of course that gets more complicated when you add more parties. So Senate could honestly stay FPTP but with ranked choice, for the sake of simplicity.
Yesss we’d have to rework quite a few things for sure and I’m not good enough at math/statistics to know what that looks like on a more granular level haha.
But I wholeheartedly agree, whatever we can do to make things more proportional (and raise awareness about the concept) needs to be done, even if we’re pausing on a few stepping stones to get there.
I feel like we’d have a lot less voter/politics apathy if folks felt like they could cast a 3rd party vote ballot that actually mattered. Which is obvs somewhat intentional given our current framework… Heh.
I’m even struggling with how I want to vote for one of our local spots in November because we have an independent candidate that I really like, but, I know they probably don’t have much of a chance of winning so don’t want my vote to inadvertently be a boon for a candidate I really don’t like. Heh. 🥲
Do you have a reason to prefer ranked choice over STAR?
I hadn’t heard of this before! I’m still reading all their info, but if I’m understanding the jist correctly, I’d support this as well for the same reasons I like RCV, and I really like how this method factors in how strongly you support the candidate! It seems like we’d still need to figure out the “proportional” aspect, but, this would definitely be a step in the right direction! Thank you for sharing and sending me down a new voting research rabbit hole! Haha.
Ok, but how many films or shows have you seen where the cops shoot at fleeing suspects? I think it’s about way more than that - it’s about US police’s attitude to pursuit.
She needed to be interviewed by police, no question, right? But the police thought that, because she was running away, any means was justified in apprehending her. I think in the mind of a lot of the public too, someone “wanted” for questioning has earnt whatever comes to them if they run.
Whipping up a rage about this murder from the point of view of identity is dangerous, even though it may be a component. We don’t know from this, and accusations that may turn out to be wrong are counterproductive. But this was a murder, so we should be directing our rage at what we do know.
Don’t sweat the downvotes. Misclicks, mistaps are easy to do. And I think by far everyone here is largely going to agree with you on this. This is all heinous and unacceptable.
Maybe you are right, but in standard interface downvotes turn red and upvoted blue, so it’s pretty hard to misclick without noticing.
Maybe I’m too sensitive, IDK?
It’s the internet. People will disagree. Who cares about imaginary scores if you stand by your points? You’ll go mad if you need 100% validation.
I have accidentally up or down voted a cartoonish number of things. I generally browse through mobile and my default scrolling motion has caught those arrows a lot
I’ve accidentally voted, and embarrassingly commented, while my phone was pocketed and the screen was left on
I can also be sensitive but I understand that if I put something out there it might not be well received and I can’t let that get to me
Its Lemmy, we aren’t all using the same base software.
In fact I’m not even using Lemmy.
I dunno, on mobile most of the time. And I have 100% had votes I didn’t intentionally place. But this is heinous both that in it happened and that people will largely dismiss accountability for it. Because it was somehow a minority and could never happen to them. Which should never be the standard to begin with.
My client uses gestures to up and down vote, I do it on accident all the time.
Same. If I’m looking away from Voyager for a moment, I’ve seen accidental votes when I looked back that I reverse, and I’m sure there are ones I’ve missed.
Just a few minutes ago I accidentally hit up instead of down. I didn’t notice for awhile.
To the idiot that downvoted, what other country have you heard of where police has shot a woman for defending herself?
You want a full list of countries? Or are we restricting this to a single continent? Or NATO block? Or what?
Because Israel is some low hanging fruit.
To the idiot that downvoted, what other country have you heard of where police has shot a woman for defending herself?
Not to diminish the point being made, but there are a lot of countries that commit widespread or even state-sanctioned violence against women. Most of them are third-world hellholes. So the US is in good company.
I wouldn’t say it’s good company, Bob.
China. But they’re more about black bagging you and taking you to a facility. To be technical “trans” magically doesn’t exist in China, they’ve all been killed, beaton to the point of they’re “not trans” anymore or hiding hoping no one finds out.
You can downvote the fuck out of me, but it doesn’t mean it isn’t true because you don’t like it.
PS I didn’t downvote you, just answered your question.
Edit. Pretty much any Islamic country too. Forgot to add Russia, they’re homophobic as shit.
What you need to understand is in these countries, their governments control news, period. These things happen all over, you just won’t hear about them because that’s how they work. The US along with other first world countries share and report information. So it’s incredibly easy to criticize them when horrible things like this happen. It’s hard to criticize something that’s never released.
+1000 palantir credits
This guy thinks the government doesn’t control our media
Interesting, how do you get that comment number?
… Menu, then “View original…” with the rainbow pentagram(fediverse icon) copy that link
Ah silly me, thank you very much that is very cool to have that option. 😎 👍
I am more sad nobody even seems to care when victim is trans. People just ignore.
Has anyone actually died driving towards them? So they have to run?
That just seems like the safer move. Driving away and caring about their safety seems suicidal. If you hit one that’s one less gun on you, and the engine block is the part of a car I’d trust most to stop a bullet.
That just seems like the safer move.
Most people aren’t equipped to casually take another person’s life
I feel like people need to be more prepared, mentally, morally, etc for self-defense in general but including defending from the state. Think about these things before they come up and hopefully they never actually come up.
And we need a cultural permission structure that permits, and even celebrates self-defense (and an expanded definition of defense that includes defense from state and/or systemic exploitation). The reaction to to what happened with the shooter of the UHC CEO shows we’re already on this path.
Its not a person, its a pig. This really needs to get out more so fewer people are murdered. Seeing pigs as people costs human lives, you said it yourself.
And it doesn’t necessarily kill them. If they’re busy running out of the way you’re still safer, hopefully drop their guns, and even if they keep hold of their guns you’ve moved farther and started accelerating before they start shooting.
