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I think he doesn’t understand “anti-ai”
rhetorical question: when you’re anti-*, do you go out and do the thing you’re against? Like if you’re anti-smoking, do you go out and smoke a big fat vape? No, you do not. In other terminology, we call that hypocrisy.
I’d say the majority of people’s reasons against AI isn’t just about the environmental impact but the offloading of your cognitive and mental ability, why would someone be anti-ai and still use ai when it directly hinders the ability to cognitively think in the first place.
Anyways, the reason I’m pointing this out, is if you’re anti-ai, the philosophy assumes you don’t use LLM’s in the first place. So when someone asks this (redundant) question of “can you work without chatgpt?” or “if chatgpt disappeared, would you still be able to get through the day?” I’ve already been doing it.
I can get through my day without using chatGPT. It’s a tool for the briefest of my circumstances (mostly for tedious work), and I could do my day without using it and without hindering my performance.
Work in cybersecurity. Don’t use AI. Thanks to AI all the search engines are fucked.
Please let it die.
Jokes on you, I use AI as a search engine to wade through all the other AI generated slop. It works some of the time, unlike google which is only ads.
I use a self-hosted combo of Hister (search engine with local index, you can get a browser extension to add pages you visit to the index so it basically searches your own browser history, it also bas a web crawler for building up your local index) and SearXNG (meta-search engine, it basically searches multiple normal search engines in the background, and you can route those searches through tor or a rotating list of proxies for increased privacy)
Setting up SearXNG is on my to-do list
Highly recommend it. Only took like 5 minutes to set up, just install it, enable the systemd service (or equivalent, I’ve only run it on arch, but I assume there’s at least an openrc service as well), and then set which engines you want it to pull from in the config (and optionally configure search proxies)
What hardware do you use?
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The funny thing is that meth actually increases productivity in a way where YOU are actually doing the fucking work.
Unlike AI which not only does it for you so you begin to get rusty and lose your ability to be effective, but it gets all the work fucking wrong as well.
Essentially what I’m saying is that meth is a more effective workplace tool than AI. I’m sure a lot of psychopathic, shark tank type business people would agree with me.
I’m not trying to say meth is a good thing. I’m just saying it’s legitimately a more useful tool than fucking AI.
This betrays such a lack of imagination (and probably empathy), as he is completely incapable of conceiving that people don’t use LLMs as much as he does.
Haters are absolutely people that use it all the time but are against it? For clout? To simply hate on something?
I dig trenches with a shovel. There is no USB port on my shovel. I thank the almighty gods for that small blessing.
But it’s the universal shoveling bus
I’ve never understood the appeal of the “smartified” appliances. My TV is more annoying than it used to be because it has smart features, it was actually more useful when it was dumb and simply played broadcast television or whatever was fed to it varian HDMI port, I don’t need smart light switches asI can turn my own lights on it’s not that difficult, I don’t need a smart fridge either, not unless it’s going to stock itself.
I can’t think of a single piece of equipment that I use on a regular basis that would benefit from having internet connectivity added to it. I guess it would be nice if my wall clock updated when the hours changed due to daylight savings, but nothing other than that.
What’s scary is that AI as a service is really expensive, and the AI companies have been selling tokens as a severe loss all this time.
If you’re that dependent on AI, what happens when you have to bear the full price?
You’re going to give up your AI girlfriend, is what.
This is really what has put me off AI, yes there are the ethical and environmental considerations and they worry me too but ultimately it’s the price, and the knowledge that the price inevitably will increase.
I don’t want to build all my workflows on a system that not only do I not really control I don’t even have a fixed price for. That just seems like a really bad design.
I also dislike using Microsoft 365 for the exact same reason. I do not want to rest my business model on someone else’s business model.
I’m not anti-AI, but I’m most definitely anti-corporate greed. I wish there was moderation in all of this. I wish there were regulations instead of letting companies blindly buy hardware before it’s even made based on what they or their competitors might be doing 2 years from now. Fuck that.
With that said, yes, AI is a helpful tool, yes, I’m using it every day at work, and yes, I can do without it no problem - just like I have for many many years.
AI has been in development for a long time, I remember learning about neural networks when I was at school in the 90s, they weren’t very sophisticated by all accounts but the research was there. What’s happened lately is that scientists have been replaced by tech bros and all the research is now happening out in public, and it is on sale, rather than in the labs where it can be regulated by people who are not purely profit motivated.
The internet didn’t vanish when the dot com bubble burst, all that happened was that businesses were more accurately assessed as to their market value. If anything, the internet was improved by the dot com bubble burst, does increase the number of actually practical ideas.
I suspect AI will be better once the AI bubble bursts, and the research goes back into labs and starts being done by ethical scientists again.
This is a very level headed take, thank you. Ai is so bad right now because of hype and overvaluation, not because the technology is inherently bad or good.
I like to think about the fact that most AI companies lose huge sums of money, and that it can’t really be maintained. It’ll naturally become an expensive tool after the “hype” dies down. It’ll no longer be worth it to put it in everything, to message random shit to it etc.
Fair point, but the damage is done, the hardware market will take years to recover (if it ever does), not to mention the negative effect on the environment.
These are things I already never use. Oh the horror
I did the job before without it so yeah.
If it were banned, would it matter if you “willing” to give it up? Dumbass question.
And yes, I could do my job easily.
Yep. I could run one locally, it just wouldn’t be as good and I don’t see much benefit even with today’s models.
My computer belongs to me.
It’s a good accelerator for mundane tasks, and usually a good indicator that you could farm those tasks out to an intern.
You should give AI the same responsibility and trust that you give to a green intern because it will confidently fuck things up and requires an experienced eye to review anything it produces.
If AI went away tomorrow, we could probably take the cost and redistribute it to a graduate or two.
The fuck was this clown doing 5 years ago? 10? Begging for change until slightly more advanced chat bots could do his “job” for him? What the fuck?
Don’t threaten me with a good time.
If I fart in the woods and nobody is there to hear it, will you ever recover from that?
Man the last thing i want to do is go through moon rune math on wikipedia or Stack Overflow when i need to solve a well defined problem in programming like the ye old days.











