• Zanacross@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I understand wanting something physical but at the same time I really don’t see why a disc helps in this day and age, even if you have the disc they can take away access to your game at any time and you just install the game to your console anyway. Why does this piece of plastic actually help?

    • Toga77@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      Why do y’all argue about things you don’t understand?

      If a game is on disk, and a lot still are, then no, it cannot be taken away from you without literally entering your home with a warrant at least where I live.

      Owning the physical disk in America at least also grants you the right to download and emulate later.

      There’s also the fact that having a physical routine adds emotional attachment.

      Also, and this really needs to be asked, WHY ARE SO MANY OF YOU FIGHTING FOR LESS OPTIONS? Seriously what the fuck?

      • bss03@infosec.pub
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        2 days ago

        You make it sound simple and absolute. But, our rights are severely curtailed even in the U.S. via the DMCA. If your console, or even the game code on disk, requires an okay from the manufacturer as a “copyright protection” and you bypass that in any way, you have just committed a felony and are considered by the State a valid target for violence.

        Of course, simply accepting the lack of physical media doesn’t help make the situation any better.

      • NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip
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        1 day ago

        Read what they wrote. These things have happened:

        You buy a physical disc. It will not play until you update the console. This is a hard coded minimum version that is on the disc.

        This has also happened in the reverse: a physical disc quit working after a firmware update, but the digital version worked fine, meaning the license transferred to the digital version after the update. Would the physical disc keep working? only if the dev thought it should.

        The only answer is: you dont own the hardware. You have no control digital or not. Do not buy hardware you cant own.

        • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works
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          1 day ago

          You buy a physical disc. It will not play until you update the console. This is a hard coded minimum version that is on the disc.

          the data is still available, somebody needs to figure out how to extract it and patch out the check, and it’s playable again. the patch becomes easier to distribute than the full game, both because of its size, public judgment and maybe the legal situation too. the fact that you have the disk is effectively proof of ownership.

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            1 day ago

            somebody needs to figure out how to extract it and patch out the check, and it’s playable again.

            Maybe. There are sometimes system calls and graphics optimizations that wont work, it isnt always just a patch out the check to fix situation.

            I am not sure if you would even be able to get the system to install the software until the patch was implemented, which means you would have to extract the full disc in the first place and then be able to write a new one, and hope the machine would read it.

    • BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone
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      2 days ago

      I uhh… I don’t mean on PS5. They can’t take away my PS2 and PS1 games.

      They can surely cancel my right to play My disc based PS4 and PS5 games but I can just disconnect my console from the Internet and keep playing those games.

      I’m 37, I prefer disc based games and I only buy digital when it’s at least 50% off or more.