• AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net
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    Hey this is kind of testable. We could run data analytics to see which higher powers people are praying to, cross-reference that with natural disaster occurrences and narrow down to find out which is the one and true!

    My hypothesis is that no member of any major religion would like the results that come out. 😎

  • Courtney (she/her/they) @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    I’ve already heard some Nationalist Christians (Nat-Cs) going on about the same thing, just because they “weren’t a Christian nation”

    It’s never limited to one religion, and it’s usually the abrahamic ones that are the worst.

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      This has been a growing thing for awhile. I’ve been an audio engineer for 16 years. It’s common for audio engineers to work in churches for our first 10+ years because it’s stable work in an inherently difficult industry to get started in. I amplify things for a living, but I draw the line at hate speech, so I’ve always left church gigs after they do hate speech, so I’ve worked at a lot of churches… They used to put on a big show of forced compassion for victims of extreme weather events. The last three churches I worked at shifted to the “well if they would’ve worshiped the TRUE god, they probably would’ve lived” shit during demented don’s first term. I haven’t taken another church gig since the industry bounced back from covid and never will. Church people are horrible.

      • Courtney (she/her/they) @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        I worked the sound board for my parents church for the better part of a decade as a teenager into early 20s.

        When I left after a guest pastor was allowed to do a sermon on how we should all hate lgbt groups and minorities because “God put us in a position of power over them for a reason” I swapped a bunch of cables around, turned every dial to max, and left important cables unplugged and mixed with similar looking cables.

        I denied doing anything when my parents brought it up, but since I didn’t do anything illegal like breaking equipment I wasn’t worried about it.

        I guess they tried to fix it themselves, which caused issues with the board and ended up replacing most of the sound system anyway before the end of the year while spending millions of dollars on church expansion instead of helping the community (which they claimed for years that they were doing despite straight up telling homeless people attending services they needed to leave)

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          despite straight up telling homeless people attending services they needed to leave

          Holy hell, if christ were real he would have such stern words for them on judgement day. It would go something along the lines of “Depart from me, for I never knew you.”

          What you did was pretty based though.

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            if christ were real he would have such stern words for them on judgement day

            Or he’d say something about homeless dogs not deserving bread. I don’t understand why anyone glazes Jesus, he was a delusional narcissist and a massive hypocrite.

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              That was a metaphor for why he shouldn’t have to heal the Greek woman, who then ended up convincing him that he was wrong and should heal her anyway. If he was a delusional narcissist he would have doubled down on never being wrong or changing his mind about anything ever. Narcissists don’t say “Hey actually yeah, you’re right and I was wrong. Here you go.”

              Bear in mind, the Greeks had previously conquered the region and were viewed as basically settler-colonialists there at the time. It would be like a French person in Algiers begging a local Algerian community leader for free handouts

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                If he was a delusional narcissist he would have doubled down on never being wrong or changing his mind about anything ever. Narcissists don’t say “Hey actually yeah, you’re right and I was wrong. Here you go.”

                Did he ever admit to not being god? Did you miss all the sermons about how he, Jesus, is the only path to salvation? He even let himself get killed for it. Psycho shit.

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                  That stuff is mostly editorialized later by the people who wrote the books with various agendas. In the Book of Matthew at least, he does very little claiming to be god or the only path to salvation.

                  It’s more like “You religious hypocrites and rich fucks better stop being such goddamn assholes and start actually taking care of people or so help me I swear I will incinerate you.”

                  Paraphrasing, of course.

                  To everyone else he’s like “Y’all are alright, just take care of each other and stop being so damn forlorn all the time.”

                  And yeah he let himself be a martyr. I guess he took his pacifism seriously, or maybe he didn’t want his followers to all get slaughtered if they tried fighting for him. It’s hard to say exactly, but I don’t think “He got beaten, insulted, and killed by the entrenched powers because he wouldn’t stop making them look like the self-centered and greedy idiots that they are” is a very good argument for “actually he was a psycho narcissist who never knew when to stop.”

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      I was raised to be Christian, but someone screwed up and taught me to care about others instead of teaching me that God wants me to profit from their suffering. I think because of that I could never look at it the way they do.

      During one of the times that Haiti was the “focus of God’s wrath”, I said that it seemed more like a consequence of our godlessness rather than theirs.

      If God can let innocent people die when we care about them, why do we assume God is punishing the people who die that we don’t care about. Maybe God is taking the people we abuse away from us. Maybe the lesson we should be taking is that we should do more to stop poverty and illness and suffering rather than patting ourselves on the back for being lucky in our birth.

      Of course, I don’t actually believe in God, so I don’t make those arguments. However, those would be the arguments I’d make if I did believe.

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    Why did they translate every word from Arabic to English except for “Allah”, which they transliterated?

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    And for any Muslims living in that area? Well, I guess they just didn’t pray hard enough. Skill issue, really.

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      Ohh that’s just god’s will. Those heavily injured survivor? That’s god’s given challenge. Those survived unharmed? That’s god’s protection. I live in muslim majority country, and that’s basically every time there’s a disaster, comment will varied depend on the area.

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      Maybe their sin was living in a Kafir country and not moving to an Islamic one. (if asked by hardcore Muslims)

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    These are the same people that tell me that me getting repeatedly raped by my female, alcoholic, bipolar caregiver when I was a child, is actually a blessing from God.

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        This fact was one of the most brutal challenges to overcome in my healing. When I started to be able to talk about what had happened to me… Almost universally the answer/response would be “that couldn’t have happened”, “you’re making this up”, “you’re just angry at your mother”, etc. it re-traumatized me very badly and it took a long time to get over this & to be able to assert myself.

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        Damn, I get hate for this even from many atheists. They think I am being misogynist but I do believe any gender can rape anyone.

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    Those are the kindest, most wonderful people. That anyone would disparage them in death like this is just horrifying.

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        Yes, these are the Himalayan people of Tibet, India and Nepal. They are the sweetest people. It’s not fair that they have to pay the price for our destruction of the atmosphere.

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    Yeah, so, turns out the world is full of irredeemable pieces of shit. What are we going to do about it?

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    I like how they posted a Surah that boils down to “stop building statues,” followed by the most badass photo of a statue you can find.

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      Nepal is a secular country. It was a hindu nation, and still is hindu majority. But most new generation are secular-hindu, as in hindu culture but not religious. Similar to how someone might celebrate Christmas but not do religious things associated with it

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        Christmas isn’t Christan though. It’s a bunch of older celebrations that the cult put their own label on. Those sick fucks love retroactively shoving their god into places he does not belong, like in Arthurian legend for example.

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          I’m not debating the origin. If you’re buying a bunch of gifts, wrapping it in, putting them under a tree, you’re technically celebrating Christmas.

          If you have some other celebrations or gatherings on the same day, then yeah it’s not Christmas

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          Ok. But in the context of what is being discussed is what you’re saying helpful or did you just want to show the class how smart you are?

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            I just think it’s important to not let insane cultists rewrite history. These are dangerous and awful people who need deprogramming.

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              Which other religions currently practice Christmas?

              Better yet which culture isn’t borrowing heavily from the ones who came before them?

              Which religions great flood was the real one, which version of saturnalia or Yule is the right one?

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    That’s what they’ve been indoctrinated to believe, and most people never question this controlling system that demands low-level thinking, or any of the others. They just want to fit in and go with the flow, and thinking is too hard so they want catchphrases to obliviously go through life thinking they are the chosen ones, special, etc. It’s the same difference between authoritarian politics and progressive. One demands obedience to supernatural or other unproven things and the other follows the evidence of what helps humanity, reduce suffering for the most in data backed ways. We update information as we discover new things.

    The truth will set us free, if enough would believe it. We’re all waves of one ocean, made of stardust, the cosmos observing itself, DNA that survived all the extinction events to have this level of awareness and technology, but might cause its own extinction, or at least for billions of people born in the wrong places and w/o enough wealth. The controlling systems won’t give up their wealth and power, they’ve had it since the first supernatural stories were used by them and they worked so well, still used today to control the masses.