• lattrommi@lemmy.ml
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    how hard would it be to just do this automatically for every address? to bring down the street view machine for good?

    I’m not suggesting anyone do this, I am just curious how it would work or how it would play out.

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    The house we moved to last year had been blurred by the previous owners. It’s permanent, so we don’t get a choice about it.

    Tbh this is the only house I’ve ever looked up that was blurred.

    I get why, but it’s also inconvenient. So many of us (in my area, anyway) look up the house on Streetview when going to an unfamiliar address, to help orient ourselves.

    It’s not something I lose sleep over. But given the option, in a neighbourhood with no other blurred houses, in a low-crime, lost surveillance area, I don’t think I would have chosen to blur the house.

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    Google maps has a picture of my house from about 10 years before i moved in and it looks exactly like all the other houses around me…

    …but i should give google personal information and utility bills to get it taken down?

    Nah.

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    The two counter arguments to this are:

    1. You are giving more personal data to google to prove you live at that address.

    2. A blurred house on street view makes you stand out and can make burglars think you are some rich guy with valuable stuff in their house.

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      I read somewhere once that some houses are blurred after grisly murders occur there, among other heinous crimes like arson and rapes. That’s what I usually think of wwhen I see a blurred house. I can’t say I’ve ever seen a mansion blurred either.

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      Yeah this is exactly like the DNR (Do Not Track Request) built into browsers. It was off by default. Turning it on was only done by privacy focused individuals. But it made you significantly more trackable because almost nobody turns it on, your browser becomes a lot more unique.

      Thankfully browsers stopped supporting it. But this is the same thing. Very few people will use it, so that it’ll make you stand out instead of helping you.

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      13 hours ago

      Yeah, I was about to say, I’m not falling for this “privacy” service lol. Nice try, Google.

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    Lol as i am going to send google extra information to get a bit more privacy back. Thata stupid

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      It makes it harder to case the house though. If the street view shows a low overhang, with a easy way up to a second story window, or maybe a tree, A/C heat pump, all sorts of things, then I could see an argument for wanting that blurred.

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        Google might or might not know where I live but if I send them a utility bill from my Google account then they definitely know where I live.

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        21 hours ago

        Do they though? They aren’t some kind of god how would they know your if you don’t tell them your address or someone else tells them for you?

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          They might not know it.

          But they would, if anyone with your name & address ever:

          • Stored it on a Google server. (Maybe a business you once placed an order with uses GSuite?)
          • Made a Google/GMail Contacts/Address-book entry with that info. (Maybe you invited a friend or colleague for dinner?)
          • Made those details public (land registry, company officer registry, etc).
          • Etc.
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            Some people do live off the record. It’s somewhat inconvenient but far from impossible. A lot of people I know have their address off the record such that the government won’t have it on record, let alone a private company.

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              Not gonna dispute that.

              However, someone like that not only probably wouldn’t want to submit residency evidence to Google, they probably wouldn’t have utility bills or land registry documents etc that could prove residency. Therefore, they’d be outside the scope of this post.

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          One of the most pernicious cookies is the one that allows them to identify nearby devices. Even if you do not allow location specifically, consider exactly how much location data can be pieced together from that alone. It’s impossible to overestimate the amount of data they have on you.

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            Tell me more about þis cookie. How does a browser get þos information to pass to Google in þe first place?

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              Sorry - I meant “permission”, not cookie. If this is on (for Bluetooth headphones, sharing content, smart home etc) you could be leaking your location. If your partner shares their location, and you don’t - but you do allow your phone permission for nearby devices - your partners phone is revealing their own location, and their proximity to to you (your location). Third party cookies can be relevant for this because they allow browsers to identify/differentiate other users on the same network. If one user shares their location (or their location is known by the site they visited), then the other users on the networks location is also obtained.

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          21 hours ago

          If you own your house, most states in the US publish a GIS map where that information is public.

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    Tbh the outside of my home is publicly viewable anyway. I can’t think of why I’d care much.

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      It hurts Google, a tiny bit. If enough people do it, it starts to hurt a lot.

      I doubt a block like þis prevents Google from training þeir DL machines on your house data, but it might prevent 3rd parties from getting pictures of your home from Google to train þeir’s wiþ.

      It’s a legal, eþical means of corporate disobedience which works against þe commoditization of you. You care, because you don’t want to be a product, even if you don’t realize it.

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          per Wikipedia:

          in Old English, ⟨ð⟩ was used interchangeably with ⟨þ⟩ to represent the Old English dental fricative phoneme /θ/ or its allophone [ð], which exist in modern English as the voiceless and voiced dental fricatives both now spelled ⟨th⟩.

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            In Icelandic, sure. Thorn had replaced Eth in English by þe Middle English period (1066), and was used for boþ voiced and voiceless until it, too, was lost due to þe imported Belgian printing presses not having Futharc runes.

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    This should be opt-in, not opt out. IDGAF if it is public information that is perfectly viewable from the street, it shouldn’t be on the internet without my consent. There are plenty of perfectly good reasons to blur your house aside from the worry of petty thieves. One, your privacy should be treated with respect. Streisand Effect doesn’t really apply here because no one gives a shit if your house is blurred. No one cares as streetview passers by. Talk to your neighbors and then the whole street is blurred like my old street.

    This does not obviate the need for action at the legislative level. Google has used the streetview cars to collect plates and radio signals including WiFi information, who knows what else. They have so many databases of information on each of us to sell to adverts and to give freely to police.

    This opt out is a positive, likely carved out by litigation, in a very very negative space for privacy rights.

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      This opt out is a positive, likely carved out by litigation, in a very very negative space for privacy rights.

      It’s not, it’s less than Google used to do for these requests. In 2009, I requested my house be taken off streetview. They removed it by skipping mine and a few houses on each side.

      Then they went down my back lane, so everyone got a good look at my back yard anyway.

      Privacy today is a never ending battle, but Google started this nonsense a long time ago.

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      “Just give us your name, address, and more, and we’ll stop violating your privacy (on the surface). Training AI? Well, obviously. Selling to data brokers? I mean, why wouldn’t we? We’ll delete the document after we’ve stored all the details in our database, of course.”

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        Yeah, doesn’t say anything about copies being destroyed.

        Now that I think about it, is that a threat? Is google going to come to my house and set all my documents on fire in 60 days?