• kossa@feddit.org
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    😅. Okay, story time:

    When StreetView was introduced this dominated public debate in Germany for weeks. It was all the rage, “how dare they to photograph everything?”

    One official even suggested “it’s awesome, police can now patrol the streets from an office chair”, because that is how much of a backwater country Germany is digitally.

    Anyway, people saw immediately all the crime which all the criminal criminals would do with this tool (which tells you something about the state of mind of the “righteous folks”). Anyway, half the country was blurred, because everybody knew about it. And it is the reason, why StreetView is so patchy in Germany (or at least was for the longest time, didn’t check much in recent years) compared to the neighbouring states, 'cause Google pretty much said “Fuck these fucking Germans with their fucking shit”.

    Apple came around some years later with their version, nobody cared anymore 😅

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      Im happy a lot of people care about privacy here in Germany. Thanks to that, we are few more steps away from the dystopian shitholes many other societies formed into.

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      You can confirm a person’s residence by the cars in front of their house. Cross reference objects in the background and if not blurred objects and features in their front yard. Blurring doesn’t totally stop this as I’ve tracked down people’s houses from satellite imagery and Facebook pictures to confirm where they lived.

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        Unless you’re renting, your home ownership is public information. You can lookup anybody in your state’s public records and know what properties they own and what their mortgage for it is.

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      Yea. I don’t really care either. I don’t see the point in making the effort. Unless I am missing something.

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    Google maps has a picture of my house from about 10 years before i moved in and it looks exactly like all the other houses around me…

    …but i should give google personal information and utility bills to get it taken down?

    Nah.

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    Damn, they’ll have to go all the way to zillow if they wanna case your place, huh?

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    The house we moved to last year had been blurred by the previous owners. It’s permanent, so we don’t get a choice about it.

    Tbh this is the only house I’ve ever looked up that was blurred.

    I get why, but it’s also inconvenient. So many of us (in my area, anyway) look up the house on Streetview when going to an unfamiliar address, to help orient ourselves.

    It’s not something I lose sleep over. But given the option, in a neighbourhood with no other blurred houses, in a low-crime, lost surveillance area, I don’t think I would have chosen to blur the house.

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    The two counter arguments to this are:

    1. You are giving more personal data to google to prove you live at that address.

    2. A blurred house on street view makes you stand out and can make burglars think you are some rich guy with valuable stuff in their house.

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      Yeah this is exactly like the DNR (Do Not Track Request) built into browsers. It was off by default. Turning it on was only done by privacy focused individuals. But it made you significantly more trackable because almost nobody turns it on, your browser becomes a lot more unique.

      Thankfully browsers stopped supporting it. But this is the same thing. Very few people will use it, so that it’ll make you stand out instead of helping you.

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      I read somewhere once that some houses are blurred after grisly murders occur there, among other heinous crimes like arson and rapes. That’s what I usually think of wwhen I see a blurred house. I can’t say I’ve ever seen a mansion blurred either.

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      Yeah, I was about to say, I’m not falling for this “privacy” service lol. Nice try, Google.

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        Google might or might not know where I live but if I send them a utility bill from my Google account then they definitely know where I live.

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        Do they though? They aren’t some kind of god how would they know your if you don’t tell them your address or someone else tells them for you?

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          They might not know it.

          But they would, if anyone with your name & address ever:

          • Stored it on a Google server. (Maybe a business you once placed an order with uses GSuite?)
          • Made a Google/GMail Contacts/Address-book entry with that info. (Maybe you invited a friend or colleague for dinner?)
          • Made those details public (land registry, company officer registry, etc).
          • Etc.
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            Some people do live off the record. It’s somewhat inconvenient but far from impossible. A lot of people I know have their address off the record such that the government won’t have it on record, let alone a private company.

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              Not gonna dispute that.

              However, someone like that not only probably wouldn’t want to submit residency evidence to Google, they probably wouldn’t have utility bills or land registry documents etc that could prove residency. Therefore, they’d be outside the scope of this post.

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          One of the most pernicious cookies is the one that allows them to identify nearby devices. Even if you do not allow location specifically, consider exactly how much location data can be pieced together from that alone. It’s impossible to overestimate the amount of data they have on you.

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            Tell me more about þis cookie. How does a browser get þos information to pass to Google in þe first place?

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              Sorry - I meant “permission”, not cookie. If this is on (for Bluetooth headphones, sharing content, smart home etc) you could be leaking your location. If your partner shares their location, and you don’t - but you do allow your phone permission for nearby devices - your partners phone is revealing their own location, and their proximity to to you (your location). Third party cookies can be relevant for this because they allow browsers to identify/differentiate other users on the same network. If one user shares their location (or their location is known by the site they visited), then the other users on the networks location is also obtained.

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          If you own your house, most states in the US publish a GIS map where that information is public.

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      “Just give us your name, address, and more, and we’ll stop violating your privacy (on the surface). Training AI? Well, obviously. Selling to data brokers? I mean, why wouldn’t we? We’ll delete the document after we’ve stored all the details in our database, of course.”

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        Yeah, doesn’t say anything about copies being destroyed.

        Now that I think about it, is that a threat? Is google going to come to my house and set all my documents on fire in 60 days?

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    Lol as i am going to send google extra information to get a bit more privacy back. Thata stupid

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    how hard would it be to just do this automatically for every address? to bring down the street view machine for good?

    I’m not suggesting anyone do this, I am just curious how it would work or how it would play out.