• Holytimes@sh.itjust.works
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    12 hours ago

    The water and noise problem functionally has zero to do with llms as a tool. That is entirely and solely a byproduct over over expansion of corporate intrests.

    That’s like saying the lumber mill is the reason logging is harmful to the environment.

    It’s nonsensical and requests objective ignorance of the context and nuance of the problem

    There’s nothing that actually requires the data center problem to exist for llms to also exist. There are alternative.

    • starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works
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      12 hours ago

      Yes which is why I’m not against ai as a whole, just in its current form it needs massive regulations. I would still not be happy about how it’s ruined huge portions of the internet, but I would probably put up with that for the value it provides.

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      12 hours ago

      We already have a perfectly good policy framework for datacenters: just charge them the negative externality costs. The problem is that they want datacenters now and repay external costs like electricity, water etc later because it takes 1 year to build a datacenter but 5 years to route power and water.

      We already solve for this with economic credits but people just don’t trust these systems because of corruption and poor governance. The credits never trickle down to people who pay for externalities.

      This is not even a datacenter issue.

      • BJW@lemmus.org
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        11 hours ago

        You’re making too much sense, Dr. Better stop before they turn their irrational hatred on you. You’re making it difficult for the slow-thinking Neo-Luddites to blindly hate this technology, and they have to hate something so they’ll turn their blind hatred on you!