• Melobol@lemmy.ml
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    18 小时前

    I’m hesitant about porn industry during war. The industry by default is way to exploiting. Now if it would be switched to legal status.
    There going to be a lot more victims.

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      9 小时前

      The porn and sex industries have always been riddled with exploitation of women. Andrew Tate made a whole career on exploiting women using OnlyFans

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      18 小时前

      That’s what is already happening. The whole country is being coerced into selling their bodies. Whether it’s fighting in the war directly or doing sex work, all Ukrainians are being victimized.

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      18 小时前

      Out of curiosity why does wartime make a difference if there is a moral line. Also legalization if done right will reduce victims as it will be regulated such as by European standards.

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          16 小时前

          Its not even religious, it being illegal gives something to keep poor people who have fewer options down and maybe there’s aspect of “I would struggle with it so its easier for me if its illegal for both of us” kind of thing

      • Melobol@lemmy.ml
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        18 小时前

        I think I saw a lot of Russian propaganda about Ukrainian drafting officers dragging / catching men and drafting by force.
        If even 10% of those news are true - how fast you think the same 10% will drag attractive women/boys/girls to star their smut? And don’t forget the Mafia exist there also.

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            It just sucks. Every way around.
            And as I mentioned lower - if recorded prostitution becomes legal, it is going to be government ordered.
            People in jails just sitting ducks (you get time off if you do this film). Then people on street will become criminals, and so on. But I am the crazy one thinking about government ordered porn.
            It is too slippery slope in a war.

            • majster@lemmy.zip
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              7 小时前

              You can get lots of crazy shit going on when state starts to disintegrate. And that is what this war is all about.

        • codydodd@lemmy.ca
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          18 小时前

          Nah your generalizations are ridiculous. The article talks about legalizing pornography which would allow them to tax the companies. Ukranian pornography stars already exist but are forced underground.

          Drafting men for mobilization is different than legalizing an underground market that when unregulated benefits from exploitation.

          You want to make a stand about mobilization, push for women to be called for national service. Dont push some bullshit moscow-sounding lies about state run pimps.

          • Melobol@lemmy.ml
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            18 小时前

            You can only have safe working environment for sex workers when a country is stable and has good law enforcement (the whole justice system).
            The regulations they would introduce - wouldn’t worth the paper they are printed on. It is wartime, they have better things to worry about, than some ‘removed getting it’.

            This is just an other revenue stream that would cause more victimization.
            But most readers will see only one thing: “More Porn!”

            • codydodd@lemmy.ca
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              17 小时前

              I see you have moved the goal posts from state sponsored kidnapped women to “Ukraine isnt ready”… don’t mind me if my eyes are rolling now.

              • Melobol@lemmy.ml
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                17 小时前

                I believe there would be some state sponsored kidnapping. If it’s already not going on.
                Edit: it is a freaking war. Atrocities happen every minute.

                • codydodd@lemmy.ca
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                  16 小时前

                  You lost my engagement. You have nothing but propaganda-based lies with zero evidence or backing. No, I do not think the Ukrainian government would start kidnapping women for pornography. You are an asset or agent of imperialism.