• nullspace@lemmy.world
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    6 hours ago

    I could have sworn this was already legal because of how many Ukranian models/porn actresses there are, but I guess they all work in other countries.

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    6 hours ago

    I don’t watch porn myself, but I support the proper production and consumption of it. Sex work imho should be legal in general, and the workers should be provided workplace safeties like health insurance and minimum pay.

    Not sure how easy it is to switch from it being illegal to the aforementioned, especially during wartime, but my fingers are crossed for success and progression either way.

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    6 hours ago

    They already have commercial surrogacy which also exploits poor women.

    I’m not sure stuff like that even makes a big difference in state budget. There are lot of negative externalities.

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      14 hours ago

      https://www.kyivpost.com/post/7741

      Per the language of the legislation itself

      “Pornography is vulgar, candid, cynical, obscene depiction of sexual acts, pursuing no other goal, the explicit demonstration of genitals, unethical elements of the sexual act, sexual perversions, realistic sketches that do not meet moral criteria and offend honor and dignity of the human by inciting low instincts.”

      So this appears to be a relic of the '00s culture war, spilling into Eastern Europe with the fall of the Soviet Union.

  • Melobol@lemmy.ml
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    16 hours ago

    I’m hesitant about porn industry during war. The industry by default is way to exploiting. Now if it would be switched to legal status.
    There going to be a lot more victims.

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      7 hours ago

      The porn and sex industries have always been riddled with exploitation of women. Andrew Tate made a whole career on exploiting women using OnlyFans

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      15 hours ago

      That’s what is already happening. The whole country is being coerced into selling their bodies. Whether it’s fighting in the war directly or doing sex work, all Ukrainians are being victimized.

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      16 hours ago

      Out of curiosity why does wartime make a difference if there is a moral line. Also legalization if done right will reduce victims as it will be regulated such as by European standards.

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          14 hours ago

          Its not even religious, it being illegal gives something to keep poor people who have fewer options down and maybe there’s aspect of “I would struggle with it so its easier for me if its illegal for both of us” kind of thing

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        16 hours ago

        I think I saw a lot of Russian propaganda about Ukrainian drafting officers dragging / catching men and drafting by force.
        If even 10% of those news are true - how fast you think the same 10% will drag attractive women/boys/girls to star their smut? And don’t forget the Mafia exist there also.

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            5 hours ago

            It just sucks. Every way around.
            And as I mentioned lower - if recorded prostitution becomes legal, it is going to be government ordered.
            People in jails just sitting ducks (you get time off if you do this film). Then people on street will become criminals, and so on. But I am the crazy one thinking about government ordered porn.
            It is too slippery slope in a war.

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              5 hours ago

              You can get lots of crazy shit going on when state starts to disintegrate. And that is what this war is all about.

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          Nah your generalizations are ridiculous. The article talks about legalizing pornography which would allow them to tax the companies. Ukranian pornography stars already exist but are forced underground.

          Drafting men for mobilization is different than legalizing an underground market that when unregulated benefits from exploitation.

          You want to make a stand about mobilization, push for women to be called for national service. Dont push some bullshit moscow-sounding lies about state run pimps.

          • Melobol@lemmy.ml
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            15 hours ago

            You can only have safe working environment for sex workers when a country is stable and has good law enforcement (the whole justice system).
            The regulations they would introduce - wouldn’t worth the paper they are printed on. It is wartime, they have better things to worry about, than some ‘removed getting it’.

            This is just an other revenue stream that would cause more victimization.
            But most readers will see only one thing: “More Porn!”

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              15 hours ago

              I see you have moved the goal posts from state sponsored kidnapped women to “Ukraine isnt ready”… don’t mind me if my eyes are rolling now.

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                15 hours ago

                I believe there would be some state sponsored kidnapping. If it’s already not going on.
                Edit: it is a freaking war. Atrocities happen every minute.

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                  14 hours ago

                  You lost my engagement. You have nothing but propaganda-based lies with zero evidence or backing. No, I do not think the Ukrainian government would start kidnapping women for pornography. You are an asset or agent of imperialism.

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    Zero morality in the government of this American colony, so I’m shocked it wasn’t legal to begin with. Bonnie Blue is a role model where I’m at, I guess they haven’t caught up yet! They should probably legalize heroin exports too, and SLAVA UKRAINEEEE! happysoyjack.jpg