• pammyfromthesticks@mander.xyz
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    2 days ago

    Bernie is a liberal zionist and a shill for the gipity. This man👏 is 👏 a 👏 turd. Yo yo yo unemployment nearing 25% in U.S. enough with the toxic positive optimism and libturd apologetics.

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      2 days ago

      Bernie is a liberal zionist

      Where on Earth did you get this notion? Bernie clearly states on a fairly regular basis that he does not support the current Israeli government and that he is not a zionist.

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        11 hours ago

        He believes israel should always be a jewish state so yeah he is a liberal zionist. Opposing only one government of israel do not make you an antizionist

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        1 day ago

        that he is not a zionist.

        Please show a single time Sanders has claimed not to be a Zionist. His position has consistently been that Netanyahu is an outlier who is sullying the otherwise noble nation of Israel, aka the liberal Zionist position.

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          20 hours ago

          Ah it seems you’re right. While he has harshly criticized the Likud and the IDF he has said in the past that he believes Israel should exist as a Jewish state.

          I’d love to see him answer Finkelstein’s best question(IMO), “How can you have a Jewish state that is not a Jewish Supremacy state?”

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            20 hours ago

            Didn’t stop this com and their Bernie Sanders personality cult from overwhelmingly upvoting your factually incorrect statement.

            And go answer your remark about Finkelstein’s statement: Sanders would do what all liberal Zionists do, play word games to get around the problem and gesture to the hypothetical idea of future Palestinian state you justify continuing to support apartheid colonialism.

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              14 hours ago

              American “leftists” are such a fucking joke. You accurately point out how problematic one of their heroes is and they immediately throw a hissy fit.

              As long as those heroes don’t harm any Americans that is.

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          23 hours ago

          The nation’s unemployment rate fell to 4.1% in July, well within the range economists consider healthy.

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            20 hours ago

            Yet that measure, which reflects the percentage of people 16 and older who don’t have a job and who are looking for work, is an imprecise metric that fails to offer a full picture of the health of the job sector

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              18 hours ago

              You use the “people of working age looking for employment” metric because lumping in people who aren’t of working age and aren’t looking for employment gives you a population that isn’t actually employable.

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                15 hours ago

                Right dude. I used to prepare these statistics. I’m not unemployable because I had a few sizeable chunks taken out of me, advanced degrees be damned, despite the views of a lot of employers.

                It’s technically my awful attitude but you know.

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                17 hours ago

                Right, but the larger point being made in the article is that the metric has become less useful over time. I was continuing to quote because you were taking it out of context.

                As workforce participation ahas gone down. Many people are checking entirely out of the economy (no longer looking for work) or don’t make enough to afford basic things like housing and healthcare. We literally have a class of working homeless people in this country. Those people are technically “employed”.

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                  16 hours ago

                  Many people are checking entirely out of the economy (no longer looking for work)

                  Sure, they’re called Retirees. And they’re moving into retirement due to their advanced age. And we’re seeing a glut of them due to the lopsided Boomer age cohort. But, among Millennials and Zoomers, workforce participation is above the historical average. Two-income housesholds are the modern norm. We are not in any kind of unemployment crisis. If anything, we’re experiencing a labor shortage.

                  We literally have a class of working homeless people in this country.

                  That’s got nothing to do with workforce participation, either as a useful metric or a share of the population. Far more indicative of our abysmal housing policies and our atrocious criminal justice system.