After 20 years in the Army, Master Sergeant Amiah Sale’s future hangs in the balance.

The Trump administration has made it a mission to purge all transgender service members from the military, but as the trans military ban makes its way through the courts, some service members, like Sale, are spending their days in limbo.

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    7 hours ago

    Please rethink keeping it, transformers is sadly often used as a slur against us.

    Also assuming you intended to say ‘men to women transgenders’, that’s not much better. ‘Male to female transgender people’ is respectful however.

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      Please rethink keeping it, transformers is sadly often used as a slur against us.

      Huh. I’ve only ever heard it used by my trans friends positively. That said, I’ll remove it if you find it offensive, wasn’t my intention.

      male to female transgenders

      That is not what I intended to say, I intended to say “transitioners”. This would be how you refer to people who have transitioned in one word, right?

      I used “man” and “woman” since this is also inclusive of people who are only socially gender transitioning. Is this not correct?

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        On the first point, it’s a bit different if someone is saying it about themselves/their people. And is probably something better kept for in-group chats where that context is known.

        Thanks for changing that and I know you didn’t mean any disrespect.

        On the second, hmm bit trickier. I could see arguments for/against. I’ve personally never seen that wording used, most people say something like ‘mtf trans’, trans woman, or trans femme which includes more than just trans women but still those who would face such transmisogyny.

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          On the first point, it’s a bit different if someone is saying it about themselves/their people.

          Sure. In the context I experienced it, it didn’t seem like use of the n-word among black folks or something similar, but it’s a) possible I missed that it was and b) obviously, not everyone feels the same in the first place, so just because they liked it doesn’t mean everyone is cool with it. Could also be that at the time I heard it used this hadn’t been picked up by the bigots yet and they since have ruined it, which wouldn’t surprise me, unfortunately…

          Either way, noted for future reference, thanks.

          On the second, hmm bit trickier. I could see arguments for/against.

          My thinking was that while “transgenders” is similar to “blacks” in that it takes a noun and sort of subtly objectifies people, to transition is a verb and so is more akin to saying “swimmers” or “runners”. But I can see how some may see this as reductive. “Trans femme” sounds like it does what I was looking for, though, so may as well use that.

          If that’s less openly offensive I’ll keep that as I think this has led to an interesting conversation about language others may be able to learn from as well.

          Though again, fair enough on all points and genuinely noted!