Have we really become so lazy that we don’t even want to learn a minimum of a programming language, especially if you work in IT? Sure, if you have no training or education in IT and just want to make a quick app to help your personal projects, go crazy. But I’d say even then you’d he doing yourself a disfavor by not even looking at some documentation for 5 minutes. It seems like today people completely disregard the value of constant learning, even if it won’t result in the next Apple, I feel like learning something new even surface-level can only be beneficial. Vibe-coding is just one aspect, the fact people are reading worse and worse further shows that learning simply lost its appeal, people just want to make money believing billionaires who tell them “oh anyone can be like me, without school or education you just need crypto or whatever the next finance bro trend is”.
Have we really become so lazy that we don’t even want to learn a minimum of a programming language
It’s worse than that. I’ve seen people who used to be good programmers, writing complicated FPGA data processing applications, reduced to barely being able to read simple python scripts and making extremely beginner mistakes when they ever have to change a line of code themselves.
When your company gives free ai to 1/3 of employees and increase amount of work tenfold to everyone… you have no options left. Job market sucks nowadays
I wrote a 60 page manual for the machine my code runs on and I have talked to a total of one (1) person who actually checked the manual for his problem before calling us for help.
What are you actually learning? Coding hasn’t changed substantially in 10 years. You might have picked up some rust along the way but what are you actually reading?
There is an near-infinite expanse of stuff to learn in every direction you look. Human knowledge and culture is a fractal, even when you think you know everything about a subject there’s always more to be surprised by or to do.
I’ve recently been reading up on cryptography. That part of software engineering alone can take years to catch up with the latest post-quantum developments.
There is also always some basic shit which you forget with time. I need to re-read The Art of Computer Programming at some point.
This isn’t specifically related to coding. I’m taking about any manual, be it for a programming language, or a microwave oven. Regarding my particular field of endeavor, how many people that drive cars are even remotely familiar with the actual road rules legislation, or even looked at them since they got their licence? See also the people that complain about following Ikea instructions as if they aren’t the simplest possible instructions to follow.
Offloading individual responsibility / competency is not the same as “figuring shit out yourself”
The individual who doesn’t know the rules of the road may not have an incident but may also constantly be endangering themselves and others. Your retort is derogatory and lacks contemplation but what did I expect this is a comment section on the internet 😅
I’m honestly shocked how normalized this is.
Have we really become so lazy that we don’t even want to learn a minimum of a programming language, especially if you work in IT? Sure, if you have no training or education in IT and just want to make a quick app to help your personal projects, go crazy. But I’d say even then you’d he doing yourself a disfavor by not even looking at some documentation for 5 minutes. It seems like today people completely disregard the value of constant learning, even if it won’t result in the next Apple, I feel like learning something new even surface-level can only be beneficial. Vibe-coding is just one aspect, the fact people are reading worse and worse further shows that learning simply lost its appeal, people just want to make money believing billionaires who tell them “oh anyone can be like me, without school or education you just need crypto or whatever the next finance bro trend is”.
It’s worse than that. I’ve seen people who used to be good programmers, writing complicated FPGA data processing applications, reduced to barely being able to read simple python scripts and making extremely beginner mistakes when they ever have to change a line of code themselves.
When your company gives free ai to 1/3 of employees and increase amount of work tenfold to everyone… you have no options left. Job market sucks nowadays
This week I got into Bitburner and spent hours writing and debugging Typescript code in a video game for fun.
Vibe coders are boring people on the inside who don’t take joy in their field.
As someone that always Reads The Fucking Manual, it’s frustrating to live in a world full of people that never Read The Fucking Manual.
I wrote a 60 page manual for the machine my code runs on and I have talked to a total of one (1) person who actually checked the manual for his problem before calling us for help.
What are you actually learning? Coding hasn’t changed substantially in 10 years. You might have picked up some rust along the way but what are you actually reading?
There is an near-infinite expanse of stuff to learn in every direction you look. Human knowledge and culture is a fractal, even when you think you know everything about a subject there’s always more to be surprised by or to do.
I’ve recently been reading up on cryptography. That part of software engineering alone can take years to catch up with the latest post-quantum developments.
There is also always some basic shit which you forget with time. I need to re-read The Art of Computer Programming at some point.
This isn’t specifically related to coding. I’m taking about any manual, be it for a programming language, or a microwave oven. Regarding my particular field of endeavor, how many people that drive cars are even remotely familiar with the actual road rules legislation, or even looked at them since they got their licence? See also the people that complain about following Ikea instructions as if they aren’t the simplest possible instructions to follow.
You’re comparing figuring shit yourself to ai vibing it for you? Wow. Just fantastic. Really going with consistent themes here.
Yes, those are the two options. We’re comparing the two options against each other. One is better, one is worse. That’s a comparison.
What are the two themes to you? Because I see
I didn’t learn it so I can’t do it
You should always learn it
Seems pretty consistent to me
Offloading individual responsibility / competency is not the same as “figuring shit out yourself”
The individual who doesn’t know the rules of the road may not have an incident but may also constantly be endangering themselves and others. Your retort is derogatory and lacks contemplation but what did I expect this is a comment section on the internet 😅
What are you actually learning 10 years in coding?
Learning how to learn. Code or otherwise, learn something