I believe all EVs have some kind of gearcase oil; mine certainly does. It doesn’t need changing for a long time, but it is going to be effected - still, way ahead of the regular interval oil changes!
I mean, yeah, there’s oil in there because there usually is still a transmission that has two gears (forward and reverse), so obviously there have to be gears and those obviously need lubrication. However, as there is nothing burned it usually really is just for lubrication and doesn’t really accumulate dirt or deteriorates in other ways. In fact I just checked and both my cars have no transmission oil changes in their maintenance schedule because it just doesn’t need to be replaced. Like, ever.
The gears are usually not forward and reverse, just reduction gearing. Lifetime fluid is a misnomer. Differentials also are just moving gears with no pressure or combustion byproducts, but those get changed regularly. It depends whether you want your car to last past the “lifetime” as defined by the manufacturer or not. Personally, my cars get fluid changes, because my definition of lifetime is longer than the extended warranty period.
Great, guess that means I should look into transmission oil changes at least for my golf… thanks for bringing that up, would have ignored it completely otherwise.
Not a difficult change, not a lot of oil (<1 liter), do it every 50k km if you want to be super safe, but honestly even 80k km is probably fine. Idk if the video goes through it, but on absolutely any car you change the diff oil on - crack the fill plug open first - only once you know it’s not seized shut should you open the drain plug.
I make it a point to change on all my vehicles if I intend to keep them for any amount of time because I buy them heavily depreciated with tons of kilometers and the previous owners have almost always neglected it. Is it likely that I’d have a diff blow up on me if I didn’t? Probably not, but nice to be safe and to know the next owner of the car won’t have the diff blow up after a few months of ownership either.
We drove that car about 150k km. Yeah, I’m going to do that rather sooner than later.
Our second car doesn’t need that right now because we just had the parking brake replaced (different story, although I’m still salty about that one because the car obviously uses the parking brake to stop when on adaptive cruise control and thus wrecked it after about 120k km) and therefore just had all engine lubricants replaced. Still, I had really just assumed that this is a maintenance free part for both of them. Crap.
Oh well, good thing I wanted to be a smartass about this one, I guess. The more you know. Again, thanks for bringing it up.
Yep, Their post just screams “I got mine so it doesnt matter anymore”.
Not only are the greases, oils, lubricants, etc in the car from petro, the plastic are too, and so is the means of transporting those EV cars from the factory to the dealerships via trains and big rigs that run on diesel. Oh, and lets not forget all the extraction equipment for the batteries/bodies/wiring/etc that all runs on diesel as well.
and all those prices going up are going to make EVs skyrocket in price
Sure you’ll be able to drive on all renewable electricity to the grocery store where you can’t afford the food, then you can run your fridge at home for free but it’s empty.
We switched to fully electric cars 5 years ago. Guess this is one more reason that that was a good decision.
Yeah, but most of the shipping industry still needs motor oil. I’m more worried about what this is going to go to the price of other goods
I believe all EVs have some kind of gearcase oil; mine certainly does. It doesn’t need changing for a long time, but it is going to be effected - still, way ahead of the regular interval oil changes!
I mean, yeah, there’s oil in there because there usually is still a transmission that has two gears (forward and reverse), so obviously there have to be gears and those obviously need lubrication. However, as there is nothing burned it usually really is just for lubrication and doesn’t really accumulate dirt or deteriorates in other ways. In fact I just checked and both my cars have no transmission oil changes in their maintenance schedule because it just doesn’t need to be replaced. Like, ever.
The gears are usually not forward and reverse, just reduction gearing. Lifetime fluid is a misnomer. Differentials also are just moving gears with no pressure or combustion byproducts, but those get changed regularly. It depends whether you want your car to last past the “lifetime” as defined by the manufacturer or not. Personally, my cars get fluid changes, because my definition of lifetime is longer than the extended warranty period.
Great, guess that means I should look into transmission oil changes at least for my golf… thanks for bringing that up, would have ignored it completely otherwise.
less than a liter goes in the front diff that I believe the reduction gearing is built into. At least on ICE vehicles they always do reduction
Not a difficult change, not a lot of oil (<1 liter), do it every 50k km if you want to be super safe, but honestly even 80k km is probably fine. Idk if the video goes through it, but on absolutely any car you change the diff oil on - crack the fill plug open first - only once you know it’s not seized shut should you open the drain plug.
I make it a point to change on all my vehicles if I intend to keep them for any amount of time because I buy them heavily depreciated with tons of kilometers and the previous owners have almost always neglected it. Is it likely that I’d have a diff blow up on me if I didn’t? Probably not, but nice to be safe and to know the next owner of the car won’t have the diff blow up after a few months of ownership either.
We drove that car about 150k km. Yeah, I’m going to do that rather sooner than later.
Our second car doesn’t need that right now because we just had the parking brake replaced (different story, although I’m still salty about that one because the car obviously uses the parking brake to stop when on adaptive cruise control and thus wrecked it after about 120k km) and therefore just had all engine lubricants replaced. Still, I had really just assumed that this is a maintenance free part for both of them. Crap.
Oh well, good thing I wanted to be a smartass about this one, I guess. The more you know. Again, thanks for bringing it up.
you still need to make plastic parts, and lubricants for other things besides cars.
All of the plastic in your electric car is made from petroleum.
Yeah, but I don’t need to replace that regularly.
No, but it does mean that replacement EVs are going to get more expensive too.
Luckily you usually don’t have to replace your car regularly either.
That’s not my point. Just because you could afford to upgrade 5 years ago doesn’t mean everybody could and shit is just going to get more expensive.
Ah okay, sorry… misunderstood your comment.
Yes, it’s of course pretty bad that everything gets more expensive.
Yep, Their post just screams “I got mine so it doesnt matter anymore”.
Not only are the greases, oils, lubricants, etc in the car from petro, the plastic are too, and so is the means of transporting those EV cars from the factory to the dealerships via trains and big rigs that run on diesel. Oh, and lets not forget all the extraction equipment for the batteries/bodies/wiring/etc that all runs on diesel as well.
and all those prices going up are going to make EVs skyrocket in price
Sure you’ll be able to drive on all renewable electricity to the grocery store where you can’t afford the food, then you can run your fridge at home for free but it’s empty.
That’ll show the oil companies.