When you talked about “abolishing the state,” obviously.
This is the deterring Korean War 2 approach.
Sire, I fear that your focus is misplaced. There is a growing threat of banditry within your own realm, sire. These are no ordinary bandits, my lord, they are organized and well equipped. I fear they are plotting to seize your throne, milord. The rabble is discontented, there are whispers that the king cares not about protecting the people, that they cannot afford to pay the apocathary for treatment when they fall ill, and that even basic necessities have become harder to come by. I even have reports sire, that even the loyalty of the guardsmen is in question, as many are loyal to the bandits. Even the courts and magistrates are not free of their influence. And let’s not even discuss the state of your treasury.
You must turn your focus inward, my liege, for the security of the realm. Let us appease our allies with gifts and honeyed words, but not allow ourselves to be drawn into their campaigns. If we try to aid them while there is turbulence at home, it will only create more problems, my liege. I beg you, my liege, put aside your pride and ambition and see reason! I know you long for the field of battle, that the tribulations of the peasants bore you, but it is upon their backs that your power rests, lord. They will only answer the call of battle if they see that you are a wise and cautious ruler, who tends to his realm.
By the way I’ve been skipping over your chargpt bullshit.
Not a single thing I’ve said has been chat-gpt.
Yeah. Can’t really abolish the state when the state is being conquered by another, more oppressive state.
Right, so then it’s exactly what I said. You are not an anarchist, you do not believe in abolishing the state, that is purely rhetorical. You are an imperialist who believes in maintaining the empire (badly), and who likes to pretend that you’re not.
Okay, then your shitty attempts at fantasy writing. Basically your second paragraphs in most of your posts I’ve just not bothered to read.
You really don’t understand the concept of harm reduction, do you? A less oppressive state is better than a more oppressive state. Abolishing the state is less likely with an opporessive state.
Okay, then your shitty attempts at fantasy writing.
I thought I might have more luck addressing you as a king since that’s what you actually want to be and are acting like.
You really don’t understand the concept of harm reduction, do you?
No, I do understand the concept, and I also understand the fact that it’s generally just an excuse to rally around the flag and support imperialism.
When the British socialists rallied around their imperialist state as it sent people to the pointless meat grinder of WWI, to kill Germans and expand the power of their empire, they called it harm reduction, because they pointed to the flaws of the German government, and said at least we’re not that bad, and we have to stop them from winning. When the German socialists did the same, they justified their imperialism by pointing to the Russian government’s flaws and calling it harm reduction the exact same way. And so, ordinary people all over Europe got drafted and sent off to slaughter each other for the sake of expanding the power of their respective empires, with the full endorsement of supposedly “socialist” parties, justified with harm reduction.
The only country where socialists that rejected that nonsense about “harm reduction” or “lesser evilism” was, in fact, the only one that was able to overthrow their government and set up a new system. And you can disagree with the direction it went all you want, but this idea that revolution would somehow be easier if the state is secure and has no other threats to worry about is obviously nonsense.
You don’t give a rat’s ass about abolishing the state, or about opposing the ruling class in general. You only care about preserving the status quo, with the ruling class on top, and you can call that “harm reduction” or whatever else to justify it, but at the end of the day you’re just a rube working to protect the interests of the ruling class.
Your shitty attempts at taunting me are noted. Perhaps I was too generous in correcting myself earlier.
You’d actually have a point if we weren’t talking about North Korea. If we were comparing similar governments, not one that is problematic to one that is essentially a slave state.
Nothing I say could ever be as shitty an attempt at taunting as calling a random soldier wandering around “an invasion.” If your imperialist views weren’t enough to make me not respect you, that bit of trolling certainly was.
You’d actually have a point if we weren’t talking about North Korea.
If some random, dirt poor country a thousand miles away is enough to make you rally behind the ruling class, then you just wanted to rally behind the ruling class and found that to use as an excuse.
There has never been, nor will there ever be, a state that doesn’t have a threat at least as large as what NK poses. You will always find a reason rally behind the state and the ruling class, and any pretense otherwise is completely unserious.
Tell me, if a dude with a gun walked into your living room and said “hey don’t worry I’m not gonna go in your bedroom”, you’d be cool with that?
The problem with NK isn’t the fact that they could pose a threat. The problem with NK is that they could pose a threat, as well as constantly talk about how they will invade, as well as probe SK’s defenses with repeated armed incursions.
I think you’re responding to the wrong person dude. When did I say this was the anarchist approach?
This is the deterring Korean War 2 approach.
When you talked about “abolishing the state,” obviously.
Sire, I fear that your focus is misplaced. There is a growing threat of banditry within your own realm, sire. These are no ordinary bandits, my lord, they are organized and well equipped. I fear they are plotting to seize your throne, milord. The rabble is discontented, there are whispers that the king cares not about protecting the people, that they cannot afford to pay the apocathary for treatment when they fall ill, and that even basic necessities have become harder to come by. I even have reports sire, that even the loyalty of the guardsmen is in question, as many are loyal to the bandits. Even the courts and magistrates are not free of their influence. And let’s not even discuss the state of your treasury.
You must turn your focus inward, my liege, for the security of the realm. Let us appease our allies with gifts and honeyed words, but not allow ourselves to be drawn into their campaigns. If we try to aid them while there is turbulence at home, it will only create more problems, my liege. I beg you, my liege, put aside your pride and ambition and see reason! I know you long for the field of battle, that the tribulations of the peasants bore you, but it is upon their backs that your power rests, lord. They will only answer the call of battle if they see that you are a wise and cautious ruler, who tends to his realm.
Yeah. Can’t really abolish the state when the state is being conquered by another, more oppressive state.
By the way I’ve been skipping over your chargpt bullshit.
Not a single thing I’ve said has been chat-gpt.
Right, so then it’s exactly what I said. You are not an anarchist, you do not believe in abolishing the state, that is purely rhetorical. You are an imperialist who believes in maintaining the empire (badly), and who likes to pretend that you’re not.
Okay, then your shitty attempts at fantasy writing. Basically your second paragraphs in most of your posts I’ve just not bothered to read.
You really don’t understand the concept of harm reduction, do you? A less oppressive state is better than a more oppressive state. Abolishing the state is less likely with an opporessive state.
I thought I might have more luck addressing you as a king since that’s what you actually want to be and are acting like.
No, I do understand the concept, and I also understand the fact that it’s generally just an excuse to rally around the flag and support imperialism.
When the British socialists rallied around their imperialist state as it sent people to the pointless meat grinder of WWI, to kill Germans and expand the power of their empire, they called it harm reduction, because they pointed to the flaws of the German government, and said at least we’re not that bad, and we have to stop them from winning. When the German socialists did the same, they justified their imperialism by pointing to the Russian government’s flaws and calling it harm reduction the exact same way. And so, ordinary people all over Europe got drafted and sent off to slaughter each other for the sake of expanding the power of their respective empires, with the full endorsement of supposedly “socialist” parties, justified with harm reduction.
The only country where socialists that rejected that nonsense about “harm reduction” or “lesser evilism” was, in fact, the only one that was able to overthrow their government and set up a new system. And you can disagree with the direction it went all you want, but this idea that revolution would somehow be easier if the state is secure and has no other threats to worry about is obviously nonsense.
You don’t give a rat’s ass about abolishing the state, or about opposing the ruling class in general. You only care about preserving the status quo, with the ruling class on top, and you can call that “harm reduction” or whatever else to justify it, but at the end of the day you’re just a rube working to protect the interests of the ruling class.
Your shitty attempts at taunting me are noted. Perhaps I was too generous in correcting myself earlier.
You’d actually have a point if we weren’t talking about North Korea. If we were comparing similar governments, not one that is problematic to one that is essentially a slave state.
Nothing I say could ever be as shitty an attempt at taunting as calling a random soldier wandering around “an invasion.” If your imperialist views weren’t enough to make me not respect you, that bit of trolling certainly was.
If some random, dirt poor country a thousand miles away is enough to make you rally behind the ruling class, then you just wanted to rally behind the ruling class and found that to use as an excuse.
There has never been, nor will there ever be, a state that doesn’t have a threat at least as large as what NK poses. You will always find a reason rally behind the state and the ruling class, and any pretense otherwise is completely unserious.
Tell me, if a dude with a gun walked into your living room and said “hey don’t worry I’m not gonna go in your bedroom”, you’d be cool with that?
The problem with NK isn’t the fact that they could pose a threat. The problem with NK is that they could pose a threat, as well as constantly talk about how they will invade, as well as probe SK’s defenses with repeated armed incursions.