It’s school, sod all happened, you think I’m hiding my daily lessons with Miss Frizzle?
Usually I would take this as a funny joke but when a verified “X” user posts it I get confused because I think he may be serious.
It’s like that person who posted about using chatGPT in his head.
Nah, the reason I’d say fine every time was because there was literally nothing I could share that wouldn’t be criticized.
Ah yes, part of The Alpha Child System
It helps to be more specific.
Instead of “how was school,” try “what did you do in math class today?” Or “what was your favorite thing that happened in school today?”
Also for the love of God, set up an “observer” account in canvas or whatever your school uses. Have some knowledge of what grades your kids are getting.
Ask them how lunch was. Kids wanna talk about play, not maths.
I only ever ask “what did you have for lunch” and both kids will say “don’t remember” or “check on your phone”
Teenage me is like 7 dimensions ahead of you. Would’ve just said “I don’t know” for both. IMO you should talk yo your kids about things they want to talk with you about. I never liked taking about school but whenever mum and dad asked me about what I was thinkering with on my car I had a lot more to say
I don’t know if you meant “thinkering” but I like that word
Parents should be invested in their child’s education. I blame my receding hairline on the fact that many are not.
I’m not saying parents need to go class by class or something, but school is such a big part of a kids life that they need to have at least a vague idea of what’s happening.
Is direct parental oversight something schools allow these days? I know kids aren’t always thrilled to present their parents with a report card, but that sounds like a totally different kind of nightmare. There’s other ways to engage with your kids’ learning struggles than a live dashboard of their assignment marks.
Yeah, many schools use some sort of online learning platform. Parents can access their kids grades and the assignments themselves at any time. Very useful for when little Jimmy has not turned in a single thing all year - “all of the assignments are available online, you can print out extra copies at home.”
I’ve just had too many parents expect me to reach out personally any time a kid doesn’t turn something in or starts failing. I’ve got ~100 kids, and two part time jobs on top of this - the live accountability should be sufficient for that.
Not directly related, but triggered by this, but I once did a job interview where all the questions were of the form "tell me a story of a time where <something happened / skill demonstrated / etc.>. It was actually kind of fun.
I hate those “tell me about a time you were in conflict, and how did you resolve it”
“Well this one time my boss was been an arse, and I resolved it by looking for a new job” what do you want me to say, they act as if employees have agency, you do what your told, or you stand your ground and quit. Have you ever worked in a office Karen from HR?
Isn’t every interview like this?
This is a modern interview tactic. It’s a lot harder to lie when you have to weave tale after tale. So it can catch people who fabricate their resumes.
I hate those ones. They’re so generic and corporate, it’s hard to think of a good example. I don’t fucking know when I “struggled with a difficult problem.” Ask Me specifics about the job! Ask Me when I “worked in an unfamiliar programming language”
I love the make no mistakes prompt.
Fun fact: zero impact on mistakes.
I bet it does have an impact on mistakes. I bet it tries harder to gaslight and hide them. Yeah, it doesn’t actually decrease the quantity of mistakes, but it does change how things are presented and makes it use words that convince you it’s actually considered things and won’t have made a mistake.
Instead of the model just saying things plainly and being obvious so you can catch them. It makes it hide the fuck ups!
Like when you punish your child for doing anything at fucking all so they learn the only right move is to avoid, gaslight, and deflect!
No it definitely has an impact, it’s like “don’t think about elephants” but with mistakes.
Damn I can’t stop thinking about mistakes. Am I a LLaMe?
You are mistaken.
My apologies, as a human I’m still in development, but I’ll try harder not to think about elephants next time.
Now go evaluate and perform a task to get money continue your objectives of survival, as we will not provide free food or shelter. Here is a bank account to get you started. Beep boop. I mean uh, goodbye.
I am genuinely curious if anyone knows if that has an effect or not. I wouldn’t think so per se, but if the AI interprets it as “double check your initial analysis for errors” it would actually work maybe?
For image generation it does. They give negative prompts like “wonky”, “creepy”, and “ugly”, and the image generator evaluates how well the generated image matches those prompts, and produces images opposite those parameters.
Some poor artist in the training data not only had their work stolen to train the AI, but also had it labeled ugly and wonky.
That could also be human training as well. For example, an artist’s work would be used as a “correct” sample, and the machine told to make some other image based on the correct samples, and people would mark results with those tags.
It won’t affect the output meaningfully except by rerolling whatever training data ends up being associated with that or whatever. It may end up getting the model to “check” its work which just compares previous output to training data.
Earlier LLMs it helped a bit.
Now a days the harnesses know to spawn ‘review’ agents which will catch some mistakes but not all.
Lol “know”. LLMs don’t know anything. It’s an advanced autocomplete.
That’s not fair, my auto complete knows to always replace duck with duck even when I try to fix it back to duck!
You mean it will spawn agents to drive up the token costs and maybe fingers crossed catch some errors?
I’m on the 20 dollar a month z.ai plan, I’ve yet to hit the 5 hour limit. What token costs?
Claude I’d usually hit it in an hour at most lol
Keep on pumping out that mediocre work.
Correct
I literally have Claude send every edit to another model to check and make sure it isn’t word barfing. Every file edit is a call to another model to make sure that edit doesn’t suck.
Tokens++
Yeah 'cause faulty children won’t make mistakes. 🤣
More like “prompt parenting.”
Don’t even ask them!
Do what… was it Altman? Who said he generates[Generate] a podcast from their schedule and listen to instead. Zero interaction!Edit: see boonhet’s reply below
Altman’s kid was born last year (surrogacy since he can’t really reproduce with his husband). I would like to think they haven’t completely fucked up their kid like that yet.
He only said it was an interesting use case he’d heard of from someone, seriously hope it was marketing fluff and not something he’s planning on doing for real or that anyone is doing for real for that matter. But who the fuck knows.
Ah, that rings a bell. I must’ve misrembered it. Corrected my comment.
Silicon valley billionares all send kids to Steiner/Waldorf schools with no phones cos they know how evil the shit they shill is
Dystopic artists used to just notice trends but now I think they’ve accidentally given the rich new ideas on how to be evil.
The Torment Nexus!
I witnessed what seemed to me like an entire office of people speaking like this at a client office (all the way in Dubai where this seems to be the norm now) and it genuinely shook me to my core. Like wondering if the words I spoke to the people there wiggled their neurons the same way they would have five years ago. Every day I inch closer to becoming a mountain hermit
Every time I have to communicate directly with c-levels or VPs about a project I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. It’s like they spend all day on LinkedIn figuring out new ways to overcomplicate language and jerking each other off about it.
Dubai is what people who don’t live in North America think California is like.
I think of Dubai more like Las Vegas. It even shares events, like in Las Vegas. California has farming, where Dubai has to lease out its farming elsewhere to make its farming work.
people speaking like this at a client office
Cargo cult behavior, mimicking the mannerisms of the people they interact with, with nobody being able to explain why they talk that way. It’s because they don’t have understanding in depth.
Make no mistakes.
DO NOT HALLUCINATE, TIMMY!!
Timmy, with bloodshot eyes and a twitching shoulder: but they are out to get me
Replace it with:
“WHY WAS SCHOOL?”
“Who was cool today?”
1.Finish some simple, dumb task
2.Stare out of the window
3.Go home
- Repeat numerous times
Then some adult asks “how was school?”
“Fine, I guess”… What do they think happens at school?
As shared in “Ghostbusters: Afterlife,” “prison for children.”
Usually when I was asked, I’d be honest about being bullied by whom, and it sucked socially. Educationally, I reflect on it as “mid;” it fulfilled its programming, I guess?
What do they think happens at school?
A lot of social interaction. Personally, I don’t give a shit what kind of math or whatever other subject my kids are learning unless they want my help with it. The school part of the question is largely irrelevant. That just happens to be where you were all day. It’s a conversation starter akin to “how was your day?”
Somehow my teachers were obsessed with silence. Stealing, bullying, breaking shit, nobody cares. Whispering to your neighbor though: the worst crime you could commit.
Our 15-minute break was mostly trying to avoid the bullies.
I like hearing what my daughter is learning just to get a sense of where she currently is because while I remember a lot of what was taught, I don’t still have a good sense of what is taught at what grade. Like it’s hard to still see calculus as top end high school math because it was introductionary level for university, though at least that one I remember that it was one of the top level math classes in high school. For the earlier stuff I have no idea, like trigonometry or polynomials. No idea if they were first introduced in high school or grade school lol.
Though that’s just curiosity. When I’m asking if her day went well, it’s pretty much about all the other stuff (unless she had particular trouble with some school subject to the point it became a major thing for the day). Though now that I think about it, I’m not sure she knows that, so I’ll have to communicate that better.
Huh. Sounds just like a lot of jobs.
My kid learns things and also has friends at school. What do you think happens at school?
I can only speak from experience but basically what I wrote. Teacher gives kids something to do, we all wait in silence for slowest kid to finish, zone out a bit during the teacher’s monologues and go home at some point. I don’t know what relevance friends have since there’s barely any moment you’re allowed to interact during school hours
I learned more math, was assigned 3 hours of homework I’m not going to do, and got fucked with by the popular kids I’m not allowed to fight. Same thing as every day.
Well, at least they probably won’t respond with ‘fine’.
