The family of an American woman shot and killed by an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent has filed two civil lawsuits related to her death, according to court records filed Thursday in Minnesota federal court.
I mean that’s essentially what anyone who’s white voted for when voting for Trump. They’re always for these policies until they’re the ones being targeted. So yeah, her mom and dad did say fascism is okay when it happens to others, then it happened to their loved one and now they’re empathic?
What happened to Good and Pretti never should’ve happened but I won’t feign sympathy for the parents that voted to allow it to happen thinking them and their family were one of the good ones it wouldn’t happen to.
Actually seems like she’s the sole plaintiff and everyone else in this thread is just jumping to conclusions because that article about her mom a while back made them too mad to think clearly
e; I’m wrong, the article’s a bit vague on whether her parents are involved but her brother definitely is in at least one of two lawsuits happening here
“The hole in my family and myself, created by my sister’s passing, is hauntingly apparent,” Good’s brother and plaintiff, Brent Ganger, said at a Thursday news conference announcing the lawsuits.
…
The [first] lawsuit seeks unspecified compensatory damages for Good’s partner, who witnessed the shooting, and “for the immense suffering Renee endured in the final moments of her life and for the profound and permanent losses that her death has inflicted upon her family,” the family’s attorneys said in a statement.
…
In their second lawsuit, Good’s family alleges, among other things, Operation Metro Surge was “a carefully planned, coordinated effort between senior federal officials and private actors” to interfere with the civil rights of Minnesotans of Somali and Hispanic descent and origin, and to silence “the neighbors and allies of those targeted communities who observed, documented, and warned of that campaign.”
I’m not having any luck finding a specific post, but there were several articles that got written and submitted here after she testified to Congress at the end of September and essentially said “I voted for Trump because I thought he was gonna make us safer not kill my daughter” and people here (understandably I’d say) had/have some strong feelings about that
Getting off the Nazi side is step 0. It’s the bare fucking minimum to even begin the process. They aren’t magically forgiven just because they were affected by their own shitty actions.
I agree that the left is particularly bad about bashing on people who are thinking about switching sides. People often say that the right is a cult, but that’s because it has a LOT of the indicators of being an actual cult, including using cult conditioning on its members.
A large part of cult conditioning is warning your members that safety can only be found within the cult. Telling cult members that the outside world is hostile and out to get them. And then they intentionally send those cult members out into the world, with the mission of being annoyingly aggressive proselytizers. And when they’re naturally met with hostility during that mission, (because of course they are, nobody likes the random door-knockers and street-corner-shouters trying to convert them), it confirms what the cult members have been warned about, and drives them deeper into the arms of the cult.
And attacking someone who is thinking about leaving conservatism plays directly into that same cult conditioning pattern. The right has spent a lot of time indoctrinating their members to believe that the outside world will be hostile. And attacking a former conservative only confirms what the right has warned them about, and pushes them back towards conservatism.
But that doesn’t mean we should welcome Nazis into the group just because they were attacked by other Nazis. They’re basically saying “okay, maybe Nazis aren’t all good.” But then you dig deeper, and they’re often arriving at that statement by saying “yeah the Nazi-on-Nazi crime is an issue we need to address, to keep the Nazi party strong.” They’re viewing the entire situation through a fundamentally skewed lens. And someone saying “maybe Nazis aren’t all good” is worth investigating, rather than taking the statement at face value and welcoming them with open arms.
All of this is based on what, two whole quotes from her mom? People like you are doing exactly what the fascists want to you to do, antagonizing anyone and everyone could join our movement.
This is some whiny manbaby shit. If she wants to fight Trump then she’s on my side. I don’t GAF what mistakes people made in the past. We are way beyond demanding perfection from people now, this is about survival.
Personally I want people who had bad enough judgement to wind up on the Nazi side in the first place to shut the hell up for the rest of their miserable lives. They can go volunteer at nursing homes or food pantries or something but I don’t want to hear a single opinion out of any of them ever again.
That all being said, anybody who files basically any lawsuit against the federal government slows them down a little bit, and right now that is always a good thing, so I don’t think it actually matters much who filed this lawsuit and who they voted for, all that matters is that the feds get dragged into court for this and we get a historical record of their crimes.
Her Trump voting mother is suing Trump’s government now?
“I didn’t think this would happen to ME!!!”
Facsism is okay when it happens to others!
I mean that’s essentially what anyone who’s white voted for when voting for Trump. They’re always for these policies until they’re the ones being targeted. So yeah, her mom and dad did say fascism is okay when it happens to others, then it happened to their loved one and now they’re empathic?
What happened to Good and Pretti never should’ve happened but I won’t feign sympathy for the parents that voted to allow it to happen thinking them and their family were one of the good ones it wouldn’t happen to.
Or they’re Trump voters so they don’t care about their daughter and they see a payday.
Is that why her wife is also part of the lawsuit?
Actually seems like she’s the sole plaintiff and everyone else in this thread is just jumping to conclusions because that article about her mom a while back made them too mad to think clearly
e; I’m wrong, the article’s a bit vague on whether her parents are involved but her brother definitely is in at least one of two lawsuits happening here
[Bolding added]
The article also says her brother is part of it, but fair.
Ah, I should have read more closely
What was the article on her mother about?
I’m not having any luck finding a specific post, but there were several articles that got written and submitted here after she testified to Congress at the end of September and essentially said “I voted for Trump because I thought he was gonna make us safer not kill my daughter” and people here (understandably I’d say) had/have some strong feelings about that
If you want people to get off the Nazi side you have to let them get off.
Getting off the Nazi side is step 0. It’s the bare fucking minimum to even begin the process. They aren’t magically forgiven just because they were affected by their own shitty actions.
I agree that the left is particularly bad about bashing on people who are thinking about switching sides. People often say that the right is a cult, but that’s because it has a LOT of the indicators of being an actual cult, including using cult conditioning on its members.
A large part of cult conditioning is warning your members that safety can only be found within the cult. Telling cult members that the outside world is hostile and out to get them. And then they intentionally send those cult members out into the world, with the mission of being annoyingly aggressive proselytizers. And when they’re naturally met with hostility during that mission, (because of course they are, nobody likes the random door-knockers and street-corner-shouters trying to convert them), it confirms what the cult members have been warned about, and drives them deeper into the arms of the cult.
And attacking someone who is thinking about leaving conservatism plays directly into that same cult conditioning pattern. The right has spent a lot of time indoctrinating their members to believe that the outside world will be hostile. And attacking a former conservative only confirms what the right has warned them about, and pushes them back towards conservatism.
But that doesn’t mean we should welcome Nazis into the group just because they were attacked by other Nazis. They’re basically saying “okay, maybe Nazis aren’t all good.” But then you dig deeper, and they’re often arriving at that statement by saying “yeah the Nazi-on-Nazi crime is an issue we need to address, to keep the Nazi party strong.” They’re viewing the entire situation through a fundamentally skewed lens. And someone saying “maybe Nazis aren’t all good” is worth investigating, rather than taking the statement at face value and welcoming them with open arms.
Do you think maybe Renee Good’s wife, who is also part of the suit, is a little more familiar with the character of her parents than you or I are?
All of this is based on what, two whole quotes from her mom? People like you are doing exactly what the fascists want to you to do, antagonizing anyone and everyone could join our movement.
This is some whiny manbaby shit. If she wants to fight Trump then she’s on my side. I don’t GAF what mistakes people made in the past. We are way beyond demanding perfection from people now, this is about survival.
Personally I want people who had bad enough judgement to wind up on the Nazi side in the first place to shut the hell up for the rest of their miserable lives. They can go volunteer at nursing homes or food pantries or something but I don’t want to hear a single opinion out of any of them ever again.
That all being said, anybody who files basically any lawsuit against the federal government slows them down a little bit, and right now that is always a good thing, so I don’t think it actually matters much who filed this lawsuit and who they voted for, all that matters is that the feds get dragged into court for this and we get a historical record of their crimes.
That’s how being stupid works. You only respond to things fewer steps away in causation.
$$$$$