Congress has been informally notified about the pending deal, most of which is to be paid for with foreign military financing — in which U.S. taxpayer dollars are given to Israel to turn around and buy the weapons from the United States.
So this is effectively welfare for the arms industry. The US taxpayers must love guns a lot to finance giving them to foreigners.
There definitely aren’t enough of us who care enough to vote against the Democrats and Republicans who always make sure Israel gets their free WMD’s.
Pork Barrel politics are nothing new in the USA.
The Hamas-led attack on southern Israel in 2023 killed around 1,200 people and saw 251 taken hostage. Israel’s offensive in Gaza to retaliate has killed more than 73,264 Palestinians, including those killed since the ceasefire, Gaza’s Health Ministry said.
Those citing the Hamas attack as ‘justification’ for the genocide in Gaza should be made aware of the sheer disproportionality of the response by Israel.
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Well, ‘the most recent Israeli operations in Gaza have been about neutralizing HAMAS and eliminating military threats to Israel emanating from Gaza’ have caused the mass murder of 73,264 civilians - mostly babies and children - by ‘the most moral army in the world’.
Yes, HAMAS is a terrorist organisation.
SO IS THE IDF. A far larger one.
The Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and Israel examines violations and crimes against and affecting Palestinian children, including serious physical and psychological harm by the Israeli security forces since 7 October 2023 resulting in the death of at least 20,179 and injury of 44,143 children.
The paper describes the deliberate targeting and killing of Palestinian children, including post-ceasefire since the October 2025 Gaza peace plan. The Commission also examines a sharp increase in violence perpetrated by members of Israeli settlers against Palestinian children in the West Bank, including East Jerusalem.
The Commission examines the use of torture, inhumane and degrading treatment, including sexual and gender-based violence, against Palestinian children, particularly during mass arrests and in detention. It analyses pattern of Israel’s targeting of critical infrastructure essential to children, such as healthcare facilities and its short- to long-term consequences, as well as the impact of reproductive violence on newborns, resulting in poor neonatal health and birthing outcomes; attacks on orphanages and schools, impacting the loss of care for orphans and unaccompanied children, and inducing academic harm and learning disruptions for children, respectively.
The Commission examines the impact of the conditions of life imposed by Israel in Gaza resulting in preventable mortality of children, exacerbating morbidity, and serious mental trauma from the relentless and widespread attacks by Israel over two years – collectively revealing severe, multi-layered harm to Palestinian children’s survival, health, and development. Further, the Commission examines how Israeli soldiers mock and weaponize symbols of childhood in Gaza, raising ethical, disciplinary and legal questions about the conduct of the Israeli security forces during the ground invasion of Gaza.
From the Independent International Commission of Inquiry on the Occupied Palestinian Territory, including East Jerusalem, and Israel (PDF link).
Tell me, how does ‘torture, inhumane and degrading treatment, including sexual and gender-based violence, against Palestinian children, particularly during mass arrests and in detention’ accomplish ‘neutralizing HAMAS and eliminating military threats to Israel emanating from Gaza?’ How does ‘targeting of critical infrastructure essential to children, such as healthcare facilities?’
Nothing can justify such atrocities, so don’t even try.
Facts, counter-facts…
Not a war buddy, this is a one sided genocide. Speaking of truth and facts, it is Israel who are not letting journalists in to Gaza while systematically murdering the journalists who are on the ground there. Sounds like Israel is doing all it can to suppress the truth getting out…
Not interested in conspiracy theories or conspiracy thinking.
What conspiracy theory? This is just a fact as documented by the journalists who have been denied entry to the country.
Just because you don’t like something it doesn’t make it a conspiracy theory. This is the type of answer an intellectual slug like Donald trump would give, fake news, sure buddy.
2,000-pound bombs to drop on 20 pound kids.
How fucking cruel.
White supremacist settler colonies have to stick together.
The other side is not so different in their thinking either, to be honest.
Is there any info on whether these are for Gaza / Lebanon or whether they’re intended to be dropped on Iran?
They are for dropping on children.
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I am beginning to think the Palestinians in Gaza are a doomed people, not unlike the native Indians in the USA in the 1800’s. Big picture thinking here. Not a tit-for-tat listing of atrocities and counter-atrocities, facts and counter-facts. Neighboring Arab states with ethnic, linguistic, historical and racial ties to the Palestinian Arabs living in the contested areas seem to want nothing to do with them, if you judge them by their deeds and not their empty words. Even their closest ethnic cousins in the region seem content to permit them to wither and die under the wind currents of international politics. An abandoned people. Ordinary morality is for the common people- individuals. At the levels of international powers, morality abides by different rules and laws. At that level the Palestinians have been fighting a losing battle for the last 80 years. Rightly or wrongly, that bill is finally coming due for many in the region.
The Arabs of the Palestine area who have been present on the land for millennia fought bravely against the Ottoman empire only to be double crossed by the British who had promised them dominion over the land of their fathers. They then had to endure waves of white European Jews coming to their land with laughably spurious claims to historic ownership. Against all odds the Palestinian people persist, they are far from the “doomed people” you would like them to be.
The real bill coming due is what will happen to little Israel when the world bully turns their back on them. If you think this is impossible check out the trend in public opinion polls, there is no way to wash the blood of so many innocent children from your hands, the stain on Israel is permanent.
I said Gaza is doomed. There will always be plenty of Palestinians just over the border in Jordan. Jewish claims to the land are no more specious than Palestinian claims. They too lived on the land for centuries, even in Ottoman times and before that. The Brits absolutely doubled crossed the whole Arab world during the mandatory period, aided by the French. In the climate of political indertiminacy and vagueness, the Jews saw their opportunity and declared independence before any agreement could be imposed on them. The 1947 UN partition agreement was not such a bad one, when you consider how unrpoductive and violent the past 80 years have been. But the matter has been settled by war (and Israeli military victory) repeatedly since then. If the current situation is based on ideals and beliefs of another era, well that is just what it is. Jews saw their very brief window of opportuninty in 1948 and they took it. They will not give the land back, just as the USA will not be giving all of its land back to the native Indians. Never happen. That fact has been settled for over a century now. Arabs and Israelis will need to learn to live together in peace. You cannot correct the wrongs of history. Those belong to the past and cannot be changed. It may take several more generations coming and going before both sides begin to realize this.
The Jewish claims to the land are absolutely specious when you look at the available data. In the late 1800s the Jewish population of Palestine was negligible, about 2-3%, maybe a couple of thousand people. The current Jewish population of the country are not of the land, they are all colonial settlers who came from Europe and other areas with the intention of taking the land for themselves. Take the leader, Benjamin netenyahu for instance, his real family surname is Mileikowsky, they are Polish people, his dad made up the name Netenyahu to sound like a local.
The Palestinians however have deep ties to the region going back thousands of years sharing DNA with bronze and iron age Canaanites from the region.
The 1947 UN agreement wasn’t a bad one for Israel, sure. They got over 55% of Palestine despite being colonial settlers fresh off the boat, free land for nothing. The Palestinian people had to give up the land of their ancestors that they had been continuously farming for thousands of years, wasn’t such a good deal for them.
You are correct, Israel will not give the land back, that is not how the world works, might is right and all that. Israel is a tiny country both in land mass and population. 8 million or so Jews surrounded by 100s of millions of Arabs and other Muslim states. The only thing holding back the tide is Israel’s relationship with the USA but this relationship is not set in stone. Look at the USA’s history and how they have treated their allies in the past, the USA will drop Israel like they did the rest of it is in their own self interest. Now in the USA being tied to Israel is political poison, same in Europe. Foreign policy will eventually have to align with public opinion if officials want to stay in office. The world does not need an Israel to exist any more than it needs any other country.
The Palestinians however have deep ties to the region going back thousands of years sharing DNA with bronze and iron age Canaanites from the region.
Same is true of the Jews. That argument really doesn’t move the legitimacy of Palestinian claims forward one iota.
The Jewish claims to the land are absolutely specious when you look at the available data.
Concepts of land ownership under the Ottomans (and before that) do not conform to modern legal ideas of land ownership. For 1200 years under the Ottomans, the Ottomans owned everything, and the local inhabitants were simply allowed to reside on the land, (unless you were Armenian). It is better to look at the issue of land ownership from the Mandate era forward, where laws of land ownership and most other things were in the process of being modernized and harmonized with more recognizable and standardized western norms & (soon to be the common global understanding!) concepts of land ownership.
Even without opening a bible or koran, there is historical evidence of a very long-lived Jewish state in the region. There is no evidence of a Palestinian state- ever. Palestinians were only ever residents on the land, pawns of larger empires for 2000+ years- Ottomans, Mameluks, Crusader States, Jews, Assyrians, Babylonians, Egyptians, Mongols.
If you wish to argue the “Palestinians were here first” angle, you’re not going to win that debate. History and archaeology are not on your side.
The current Jewish population of the country are not of the land, they are all colonial settlers who came from Europe
That is your opinion.
Jewish exiles returning to their ancestral homelands… Sounds a lot like the Palestinian narrative about themselves. Odd, that. It took 2000 years, since the Roman era, but again, do you say that anyone who is forcibly removed from the land of their fathers somehow loses any claim to that land? What then, of the Palestinians who have relocated to Iraq, Jordan, Syria, Tureky, Europe & Egypt in the last 80 years? Have they also lost their claim to the land? When does one’s claim expire? after decades? centuries? millenia?
Be careful how you answer that, because Truth is a double edged sword that cuts both ways.
They got over 55% of Palestine despite being colonial settlers fresh off the boat, free land for nothing.
Jews purchased the land they owned in the Mandate era, when laws were in such a state that land could be legally purchased and passed on or sold under modernized reformed laws. It was not legal nor permitted by the British to simply take someone’s land. Palestinian landowners got rich selling their lands to Jews, and at the same time, sold out their own people for the sake of money.
Land stealing came later, and didn’t last long. I exclude land that the state of Israel won in wars against the Arabs. Israel simply did to Arabs what the Arabs would have done to them had the circumstances been reversed in the Arab’s favor.
Jews surrounded by 100s of millions of Arabs and other Muslim states.
Arab politics in the 20th century, post 1948 has been highly fractious itself… It’s almost as if they dislike eachother as much as they dislike the idea of Israel existing. Yes there are more Arabs surrounding Israel than there are Jews inside Israel, but absent any real consensus among the various Arab states, their hatred for Israel has not amounted to much in 80 years. Impotent terrorism that has made Palestinians pariahs globally. Several lost wars, which only served to strengthen Israel in the end. Dallying with Baathism, attempting to play the Western Bloc off against the Eastern Bloc during the cold war, cults of personality with Nasser, all of which only brought further internal and regional discord among states that claim to have a common agenda. Their own internal discord among Arabs ensures Israel’s security.
The only thing holding back the tide is Israel’s relationship with the USA but this relationship is not set in stone.
I wouldn’t be so sure of that and I certainly wouldn’t bet money on that in the next 25 years. Remember that as the current generation of Israeli and Americans age and die away to be replaced by newer generations with new thinking, the same is occuring in the Arab world. Nasser didn’t outlive Lyndon Johnson… not by much… Saddam didn’t outlive Bush. Assad didn’t outlast Bibi. The end of the cold war left the entire Arab world flat. The next generation of Palestinians may have a different perspective than the current generation, especially if they are allowed to taste some prosperity for a time and are liberated from propaganda pushing 80 year old narratives written by their grandfathers and great grandfathers.
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Same is true of the Jews. That argument really doesn’t move the legitimacy of Palestinian claims forward one iota.
Except it is not true of the Jews, many Ashkenazi Jews contain little to no DNA in common with the past inhabitants of the region. If you have any legitimate proof otherwise I would be happy to inspect it.
For 1200 years under the Ottomans, the Ottomans owned everything, and the local inhabitants were simply allowed to reside on the land
Not true again, read about the Ottoman Land Code of 1858 for instance.
It is better to look at the issue of land ownership from the Mandate era forward
Convenient time period for you to chose while ignoring history, quelle surprise.
There is no evidence of a Palestinian state- ever
Wrong again, there is just as much evidence of a Palestinian state as there is a Jewish one. You haven’t even taken the basic step of doing a Google search to check the verasity of your bold statement. First historic reference is from 12th century BCE from Inscriptions at the Medinet Habu temple written during the reign of Ramesses III, 8th century BCE Assyrian texts, 5th century BCE Greek Texts, the Romans then renamed the region Syria Palestina in the 2nd century.
Palestinians were only ever residents on the land, pawns of larger empires for 2000+
As we’re the Jews before this, they were never a mighty empire in the same vein as the other cultures you listed. If that is your rationale you might as well give up now. The Palestinian people have also been present in the region for far longer than 2000 years, the people today still retain the DNA of the Canaanites. My argument is also not that “Palestinians were there first” rather they have been present continuously for several millennia. History, archaeology and most definitively DNA are on my side.
It took 2000 years, since the Roman era, but again, do you say that anyone who is forcibly removed from the land of their fathers somehow loses any claim to that land?
When you are speaking in time frames of millennia yes you have lost the claim to that land as there is no reasonable way of proving your ownership in a court of law. Your argument makes about as much sense as me wanting to claim a piece of Ethiopia due to my ancestors living there before Homo Sapians left Africa. The Palestinians case displacement 78 years ago is still in living memory with documentation and census data to back the claims.
Be careful how you answer that, because Truth is a double edged sword that cuts both ways.
I actually laughed out loud when I read this, your lack of awareness of your own hypocrisy is hilarious!
and at the same time, sold out their own people for the sake of money.
The people did not realise the Zionist Jewish colonisers were planning a heist of their country. Weird way of you to frame it with hindsight.
Land stealing came later, and didn’t last long.
What!? The land stealing is still going on to this day, it never stopped. There are plenty of maps available online that show the year by year stealing of land by Israel in the West Bank by “settlers”.
Arab politics in the 20th century, post 1948 has been highly fractious itself… It’s almost as if they dislike eachother as much as they dislike the idea of Israel existing
You display a distinct lack of knowledge of the history of the region pre 1948, the division of the region or who divided it. Your statement is as idiotic as "European politics was highly fractious in the first half of the 20th century, why do they fight, don’t they know they are all white Christians? You assume discord amongst the Arab and wider Muslim world is a constant, dangerous assumption about anything in an ever changing world. You also fail to understand or comprehend the outside influence that has destabilised the region since the discovery of oil in the region.
The Palestinians are no longer global pariahs, Israel now owns that role, keep up.
I wouldn’t be so sure of that and I certainly wouldn’t bet money on that in the next 25 years.
Well Israel are doing there very best to speed run the collapse of this relationship. No amount of AIPAC dirty money can wash away the stain of genocide, candidates are now running a mile from this dirty money. The Michigan election was an interesting example of this, the AIPAC candidate outspent Abdul el-Sayed, a pro Palestine candidate, by $50 million, outspent by 10-1 and still lost to a Muslim man. The current New York governor is a pro Palestine Muslim man who won the cities Jewish vote. This is the city of 9/11! The tide is most certainly turning, people are starting to question their blind Islamiphobia and wonder who is fanning the flames. The newer American generation is firmly pro Palestinian and anti genocide.
especially if they are allowed to taste some prosperity for a time
You sound just as deluded as Jared Kushner and Donald trump, this is also their thinking. You keep great intellectual company there buddy! Imagine thinking some money will wash away the memory of their mother’s and siblings being indiscriminately blown apart in front of them! Most of the world thinks differently to you, you really don’t get it do you? It is not propaganda but their own lived experiences of occupation and oppression that drives the Palestinians. There is no sweeping a genocide under the rug in this day and age.
It was a nice try there buddy but your arguments are as weak and mendacious as those of the state of Israel’s. We all see you now.
The people did not realise the Zionist Jewish colonisers were planning a heist of their country. Weird way of you to frame it with hindsight.
Well, it’s an observed fact of human nature that one cannot be both stupid and smart at the same time. The Jews outmaneuvered the Palestinians politically, and ultimately outfoxed them (and the UN). I don’t think it’s plausible that “no one realized”, but Palestinians were not well organized, not well educated, and they naively placed their faith and trust in the lying promises & empty processes of the British and to a lesser extent, the French, for the 50 years before 1948. At least in Palestine. Transjordan, Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Kuwait and the Saudis seemed to make out ok with the promises made by the British and French, at least in the beginning. Even Egypt did ok, at least until the mid 1950’s when everything in the region began to curdle and sour due in part to internal rivalries among Arab states. Nasser’s egotism and cult of personality. Rivalry & dislike between cousin monarchs in neighboring countries. The rise of Baathism. Constant pivoting between eastern bloc and western bloc. But that was all just more opportunity for the Jews to exploit to their own advantage, which they readily and adroitly did. Again and again.
For 1200 years under the Ottomans, the Ottomans owned everything, and the local inhabitants were simply allowed to reside on the land
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sursock_Purchases
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_land_purchase_in_Palestine
Theft of Land? Where did the gold they paid go? Did it vanish, carried away by Jinn? Or did it vanish into the pockets of Muslims, including the upper levels of the society of Palestinian Arabs?
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This looks like you are replying to yourself, I am not sure which point you are referencing. According to your article, the colonising Jews only ever bought and owned 6% of the land in Palestine, the remaining 49% was what they stole.
If you read the article you linked on the sursock purchases you would be aware that these large purchases were bought from absentee landlords who were the Lebanese greek orthodox Christian Sursock family. I mean, it’s right there in the first paragraph.
Except it is not true of the Jews, many Ashkenazi Jews contain little to no DNA in common with the past inhabitants of the region. If you have any legitimate proof otherwise I would be happy to inspect it.
Factually incorrect.
If you believe this surely you have some actual facts to back up your argument. There are plenty of scientific papers on the heritage of Palestinians but I cannot find one supporting your statement. The Ashkenazi Jews are descended primarily from the German, Polish, Russian, Austrian etc people who arrived by boat in the early 20th century. This is likely the primary reason ancestry DNA tests are only available in Israel by court order.
Inconvenient for Israel’s and your own narrative but DNA, unlike Israel, does not lie.
