• korazail@eviltoast.org
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    3 days ago

    This is the epitome of the issue I’m talking about – you people seem to presume the engagement ends at the simple step. For some, it will, but those people weren’t likely to engage larger in the first place and reducing the consumer waste doesn’t hurt.

    For others, it will make them aware of the larger call to action, to get them to join advocacy groups that punish industrial and systemic issues.

    I can’t stop fascism or climate change or pollution on my own. I need MORE people engaged and telling people we need all or nothing solutions can only lower the number of people willing to take action. Individual, even trivial steps matter.

    Look at the people telling you to give up.

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      3 days ago

      No one is saying to give up. The fact that you hear “stop wasting your energy trying to solve things in ways that are controlled by the people profiting from the problem” and interpret that as “give up” tells us all exactly how engaged you are with anything that actually might make a difference.

      • korazail@eviltoast.org
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        3 days ago

        Your lack of reading comprehension tells me exactly how much you think.

        My point being: ‘give up’ is what some people, who would otherwise be our allies, are hearing. Stop telling *them* to give up.

        You won’t make more anti-capitalists by squashing the people who see the problems and want to solve them just not in your way. That only accelerates us towards the fascism you claim to be against.

        • DudleyMason@lemmy.ml
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          2 days ago

          My point being: ‘give up’ is what some people, who would otherwise be our allies, are hearing. Stop telling *them* to give up.

          The actual point being that nobody who hears “give up” when they’re told to stop wasting energy on the “solutions” provided by the people who don’t want the problem solved will ever be an ally until they first stop giving oxygen to the non-solutions. Until then they are an adversary, not an ally.

        • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml
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          2 days ago

          Your lack of reading comprehension

          Can you reddit fucks please learn to say “That’s not what I meant”