The White Rose Resistance (WRR), where Zacharia sat on the board until February, is best known for its anti-abortion disinformation, harassment campaigns against providers, and for collecting the country’s worst extremists. The group’s national outreach director AJ Hurley, for example, was charged with felony stalking of an abortion provider in San Francisco in 2022. Per his own bio, Hurley is also connected to the woman who was found with multiple fetuses in her home

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    The death penalty isn’t even commonly applied to one-off first degree murder convictions. It normally takes some other factor such as torture or multiple killings to escalate it to death penalty.

    Even if you think abortion is murder this is detached from reality.

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      They’re MAGAts; they’re unconcerned about reality, unless it’s gas prices, but they’re oddly quiet right now. I figured they’d be up in pitchforks.

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      Ehhh, I kinda have to push back on this a bit here. I’m 100% on board that this lady is a wacko and monster, and that women should be able to abort as many babies as they damn well please, to be clear. It’s just that from these peoples perspective it’s a baby right? I’m pretty sure someone murdering a newborn would be treated more harshly than a typical murderer. So if we are looking at it from the weirdos perspective we have to look at it as a baby murder. Not just a normal murder. Now I might be wrong about the specifics of baby murder. I’m no lawyer. But I thought it relevant to bring up.

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        “Thou shalt not kill.” not “Thou shalt not kill babies”

        They are perverting their own Christian commandments in their bloodlust.

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    So their response to somebody committing (in their mind) a sin (because that’s the only reason they would be pissed off in the first place) according to their hoohaw religion is to… commit more sin?

    Fucking hell on earth man. Fucking hell

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      They do not respond to this logic. The hypocrisy is the point and they consider this hypocrisy good. If you kill, you’re a murderer, have rejected the Lord, and deserve death. Do not waste your breath trying to explain the ethics of the death penalty to someone who supports it because of sheer bloodlust.

      If you ask, “What if an innocent person is inadvertently found guilty, executed, and then later exonerated?”, that will not register to them as a valid concern. They think it’s worth it and you are wasting your breath by asking. They believe in a God who ordained a commandment against killing, while also commanding genocide. They think the Creator of the Universe and therefore reality is just like that. It can’t be wrong. By definition.

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      “Death to all those who oppose my worldview, because they are a threat and must certainly view US as a threat to THEIR worldview” - the problem with multiple fundamentally different worldviews existing

      This is a topic in philosophy. You define what’s moral and immoral, and then you realize that sometimes your moral code must be broken for exceptions. Here’s an example:

      Killing is immoral.

      Gay is immoral.

      Killing gay is therefore good. Why? Because my religion says gay is immoral and I want to get the good ending (afterlife).

      Which is why religious people are all fucking scary to us queers, because we know that fundamentally they’re playing by different rules. Even the "good ones"are still playing by the same rulebook, and since they all pick and choose what rules they follow and when… There really isn’t a social contract that we can trust anymore.

      Which puts us atheists in a weird place where we have to just have faith that we won’t be fucked over or murdered by some messed up person. And that faith is now non-existent because it has no basis in reason anymore because of this exact shit. There’s more pattern recognition in having faith that BAD stuff happens because of religious people. Therefore, religious people are bad people. Yes I know there’s nuance, but that collective cognitive system is stressed trying to exist in this shitty society where about half of all voting adults want any and all bad endings for me and anybody that helps me in any way or anybody like me or anybody that remotely agrees with me.

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    Vote to get this shit out. No fucking talkback. Do whatever it takes to fix this shit, you apathetic non-voters.

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    So what are the chances she has an abortion in her past?

    Everything any Republican talks about ends up being projection, why would this be an exception? They only ever talk about things they have direct experience with. The most vocal anti-gay ones are the most closeted. The anti-drag ones are the ones cross-dressing at home.

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      The punchline of the anti-abortion movement has always been them complaining publicly about abortion as a form of eugenics, while obsessing privately about “white erasure” and divine/infernal eugenics privately. So much of the movement is tangled up in militant evangelism to a degree that hitting a pregnant woman with shrapnel during a clinic bombing is seen as divine retribution rather than collateral murder. That’s long before you get into the footsie anti-abortion fanatics and modern zionists play with one another, even as Israel has become a world leader in forced sterilization, population control, and ethnic cleansing through child murder.

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    Literal actual extremists fill the government and yet when someone says “maybe our tax money should go to pay for healthcare and education” they’re branded an extremist by practically everyone (Republicans, media, centrist Dems) and they rarely make it into government… Actual violent extremists who want to take rights away and literally put people to death get elected and/or placed into government, but people who actually want to help us are deemed “too far left/extreme.”

    …

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      American Mass Media is completely and utterly sold and corrupt.

      These fuckers sanewash all of Trump’s diarrhea, but anytime there is even a wiff of policies for the people, they’ll scrutinize it to death.

      Few million to feed the poor?? OMG 2 WEEK INVESTIGATIVE SEGMENTS, HOW CAN WE PAY FOR THIS??? I

      Military loses BILLIONS… nothing to see here. Move along.