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We should be hunting ICE agents for sport. The fact that not one, masked, armed, kidnapper has not had a single bullet fly in his direction is a complete failure of the citizenry.
And before someone says something smart ass, they’re nowhere near me. I actively look.
Didn’t they shoot at ICE in TX…pretty sure someone got 40 years for pamphlets too…
I wouldn’t trust either of those sites, they’re not showing any of the ICE activity near me at all. Are you involved in your local rapid response groups?
Oh, it happened. They just weren’t shot BECAUSE they were ICE. They got shot and happened to be ICE.
Well if its going to be a sport, then there needs to be a league. And after the past couple years of league sports Iʻm deeply not OK with sports teams being allowed to move geographies. So whatever league ends up forming up needs to have rules about franchises moving cities.
I donʻt want to find out the Honolulu ICE Hammmahʻs are moving to Detroit some day.
And who is stopping you from doing it?
It seems like the hard core revolutionaries expect other people to martyr themselves for the cause.
Curious… Why did you choose to ignore the second half of their comment literally addressing your comment before you even made it?
Got it.
They are willing to fight and die, but draw the line at credit card fraud or hitchhiking.
Thanks for the giggles.
Be peaceful, not helpless
Like the Starship Enterprise! Peaceful, diverse, accepting, curious, loving… and armed to the FUCKING teeth in case some motherfucker has just got to find out.
Curious what you think that looks like when the state is actively targeting your neighbors, or when they decide to focus on you. What does being peaceful but not helpless mean in the context of heavily armed masked men abducting people off the street? What does it mean if they sight you at a protest and you become targeted? I’m actually curious how you think you could not be helpless in that situation, while still remaining peaceful, when the state starts leveling all the violence they can muster towards you.
nah. be nurturing and inclusive. sometimes that means challenging a dramatic asshole to a duel so he can feel validated and included.
Another round, after this round you mean?
I can’t believer I have to keep posting this. What tf do you suggest and how is it not a suicide mission?
persuade weirdos radicalized into stochastic violence by Malcolm gladwell or my little pony fanfics or whatever to go after the right targets instead of shooting up a school when they finallu snap by arguing for violence against the right people in public.
First of all, these are not the same people. Second, it’s still most likely a suicide mission.
instead of shooting up a school when they finallu snap by arguing for violence against the right people in public.
yeah. I don’t know how to stop the suicide, I only argue for it to kill one billionaire instead of 20 school children or ten people in a super market.
blunt force trauma to the head is deadly.
so throwing a rock or one of those bricks that the feds leave at riots and protests for bait is technically deadly force
And a non lethal round to the eye is also deadly force what’s your point
So “less-lethal” projectiles like metal balls thinly coated with rubber being SHOT at the heads of peaceful protestors is technically deadly force as well. Only it’s not. Technically.
peaceful protestors
assaulting police officers and blocking traffic in the roads isn’t a peaceful protest. Looting and rioting isn’t a peaceful protest either.
Haven’t you seen the body cam videos at those gatherings?
Violence isn’t the way, though. Violent Protests are statistically less likely to achieve their goals on top of bringing more harm to everyone involved.
However, it becomes justified in response to violence. No tolerance for the intolerant. For example, in China they’re met with deadly force if they hold a nationwide protest, so it’s completely justified and even necessary for them to use force to enact any real change.
I don’t know of a single protest that started with violence.
All protests that I know lf which became violent were a response to police violence or the threat of police violence to shut down a protest.
I think you could argue January 6th insurrectionists committed violence the moment they packed pipe bombs into a cooler or built a noose. Similarly, the Proud Boys burnt down notable churches during their march a few years ago.
Some people show up to these events in groups with loaded automatic rifles, such as the Charlottesville protests or Kyle Rittenhouse who hung out with other armed counterprotestors and then roamed the streets looking for a fight and then shot two people to death.
A planned insurrection isn’t a protest, it is trying to violently overthrow the government. Kyle was opposed to the protest and looking to commit homicide. He was a counter protester in the same way someone with road rage is protesting traffic.
Being ready to respond to police violence isn’t starting with violence. It is being prepared.
Is that what the meme says, though? Because to me it says violence is justified because the state has used violence at unrelated events in the past as a general statement.
Rocks get thrown at police cars when the police try to shut down a protest, frequently using violence.
it says violence is justified because the state has used violence at unrelated events in the past
It doesn’t say that, it brings up throwing a rock at a car AFTER police violence. That is you projecting your apparent dislike of protesters standing up for themselves to twist a clear message.
Shutting down a peaceful protest should be illegal, in my opinion.
Agreed.
Also police should not use tactics against a peaceful protest to provoke a violent response, which they do all the time. Like crowding the protesters into smaller and smaller spaces, declaring it is necessary to disperse because of the time of day and they will violently force dispersal if they don’t, etc.
it’s a nitpick but not an automatic rifle. Semi auto, even with bump stocks or FRTs (Forced Reset Triggers)
If you donʻt think violence is a potential way, then donʻt use violence.
Its the prerogative of the person(s) being oppressed to decide for them selves what force to use.
Violence or a credible threat of violence is the only thing that produces change.
Unionizers had to fight mining companies armed with machine guns.
The pinkertons specialized in using violence against unionizers.
MLK succeeded only because of Malcom x. MLKs peaceful protests were peaceful only because of the watchers armed with rifles.
Occupy Wall Street was kettled in the corner and ignored.
About the only successful peaceful protest was the Iroquois indian sex strike and the American fight to give women the right to vote.
About the only successful peaceful protest was the Iroquois indian sex strike and the American fight to give women the right to vote.
Lol okay, pal.
nonviolent protestors without violent backing die.
Maybe in China.
you are a delusional dangerous fool and your kind of talk costs lives. you will get people killed. you may already have done so. there is innocent blood on your hands.
i urge you to read a book and stop trying to trick people into dying.
Yeah well that’s an opinion which contradicts science, so there’s that.
you do not know history and I can only conclude you’re a cop or fascist plant. goodbye.
