"Progressives should not make the same mistake that Ernst Thälmann made in 1932. The leader of the German Communist Party, Thälmann saw mainstream liberals as his enemies, and so the center and left never joined forces against the Nazis. Thälmann famously said that ‘some Nazi trees must not be allowed to overshadow a forest’ of social democrats, whom he sneeringly called ‘social fascists.’

After Adolf Hitler gained power in 1933, Thälmann was arrested. He was shot on Hitler’s orders in Buchenwald concentration camp in 1944."

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      I’m voting FOR Harris in the same way I was previously voting FOR Biden. Biden/Harris & Harris/Walz support policies that most closely match those policies I support.

      If Trump died tomorrow I still wouldn’t support Vance or any other Republican because they support policies that I am strongly opposed to.

      I would like to have more options, but realistically those are my choices.

      I don’t have to agree with Harris/Walz on 100% if issues. I’m allowed to criticize them. But at the end of the day I’m voting FOR something and not just against the worst possible choice.

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        Given that she has the same stance on Gaza / Palestine as Biden, I vote against the orange bad rather than for her.

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          I agree that is a fucking terrible stance. It’s fair to criticize them both for that stance and, especially after the election, we should all push them hard to change their stance.

          It is absolutely shitty that they won’t charge until after the election (if ever). Yes. Is it fair? No. Is it likely the only chance? Yes.

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            My comment said that I’m voting against my conscience wrt Palestine, so your comment doesn’t really make sense.

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      I’m voting for Harris i like the money for middle class people thing

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        There currently is no middle class. There’s people that think they are still middle class, but they are struggling just as much as they poor.

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        I hope you never suffer an illness or injury that suddenly thrusts you into the group of working poor, living out of the car, couch surfing or sleeping rough.

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          American mercenary healthcare is the primary reason I abandoned my green card efforts. It just wasn’t worth the risk that a car accident could render me homeless.

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            The average American tax payer individuals who make less than a certain amount get nothing in return. If we got services instead of global war, I believe very few would have an issue with taxes.

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        By the math, just the economic policy changes will give the non-rich a bit of a boost.

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                    don’t get me wrong I’m more invested in Palestine than you think. but not voting for either party for this reason would only be the right call if it actually would end up helping Palestinians. it won’t and not voting or voting for third party is demonstrably equal to a vote for republicans, which is undeniably worse for Palestine.

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        This is silly in our current voting system. Not voting in this election is equivalent to voting for Trump.

        People on the right (e.g. evangelicals) often see voting as their responsibility and will vote for whomever they see as the lesser of two evils. Those of us on the left get too bourgeois about our candidates. Our failure to vote keeps moving the window right!