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    The post’s criticism is that the DNC is ineffective at standing up to fascists, not that there’s nothing desirable in their proposed legislation. Proposing laws that are guaranteed to be shot down is not an effective way of standing up to fascists.

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        The Dems are doing so little to maintain the political norms of our society that they appear to be ok with them changing. They look like they’re just trying to make sure they each individually get to keep their seat. If that’s in a sham legislature, that’s fine for them. Bribes might be legal soon, so they’re getting a sweet deal.

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            You know what, you’ve convinced me. Im gonna go grab a beer and relax. Dems have done everything that can be done. There is no point in trying to prevent a third Trump term. It was gonna happen no matter what anyway.

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              If we weren’t watching a replay of the early 1930’s, it would be funny that Democratic ideologues still pretend that Dems are powerless when Donald has had the same amount of power as Biden and Obama for eight months and he’s completely remade American culture and government.

              The problem isn’t power. The problem is Dems simply don’t care as along as their personal wealth continues to increase unimpeded.

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                Of course, can’t be that people legitimately disagree with you.

                How do you think the meme got popular enough for you to see it in the first place?

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                    I again refer you to the votes on the original meme.

                    Considering bots are faster than humans, it would imply the initial trend was bot manipulation.

                    Or you could just stop blaming bots for your terrible arguments.

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        I would expect politicians to have better ideas than the ineffective shit they have been doing this year so far. Considering that I don’t believe that politicians at the national level are all actually that dumb, it has to be on purpose. There’s certainly DNC politicians who are sincere about wanting avoid fascism, but they aren’t the ones who run the party.

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            Don’t pretend like the DNC aren’t to blame for not getting enough votes. Look at how hard they fumbled the last national election, and how they’re treating Mamdani.

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            Dems had the presidency for four years. They had Congress for two years. With that same amount of power Donald has accomplished everything he wants.

            Did you notice those special sessions Abbott just did in Texas?

            The US president has the same power. He could have kept Congress in session for four years straight until he got what he wanted by sheer force of will.

            But that assumes he gives a shit.

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        Which of the bills you listed were about resisting fascism? I noticed two that were about actively capitulating to it (the ones aimed at disarming the populace), but zero that were about resisting it.

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          Fascism feeds on desperate and angry people. Economic reforms pre-empt fascism, while neoliberal economic policy leads inevitably towards fascism. Come on, this is basic Marxian analysis.

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            You really don’t get it, do you?

            We are rapidly approaching the time in which it will be necessary for the militia to defend the United States against a domestic enemy, if we aren’t there already. For that, they need to be just as well-armed, up to and including burst-fire AR-15s.

            Assault rifles are the type of firearms most worthy of Constitutional protection, not least, specifically because they are the last defense against tyranny. The more useful a weapon is in a military tactical context, the more I want the citizenry to have it.

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            Dems literally distributed tens of millions of lbs of food they delivered on a floating dock they built, via landroutes, and via airdrop.

            A floating dock that was operational for a grand total of 20 fucking days, land routes where aid trucks never reached their destination, and airdrops that all the experienced aid agencies referred to as a “grotesque distraction,” said “could never deliver the volume or the quality,” and are “expensive, inefficient, and can even kill starving civilians.”

            Dems literally withheld large bombs from the out of control Netanyahu admin.

            I’m certain the Palestinians are very grateful to have been killed with many smaller bombs rather than a few very big bombs. What a world of difference it makes.

            Dems consistently held the message of peace and ceasefire in exchange for hostages being returned.

            All while Israel refused to negotiate for the hostages’ return, even going so far as to kill the Palestinian negotiators, and always being the one to break ceasefires.

            Performative, ineffective, insulting “attempts” at delivering aid when Biden could have ended the genocide with a single fucking phonecall by conditioning defense spending to Israel on opening a humanitarian corridor and threatening sanctions if Israel continues violating international law. And I know for a fact that he could have done so because RONALD FUCKING REAGAN DID EXACTLY THAT in August 1982 when Israeli forces advanced beyond southern Lebanon and began shelling the Palestinian Liberation Organization (PLO) in Beirut. You cannot call yourself a leftist or even a liberal when you’re getting outclassed by Ronald Reagan.

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              I don’t think what Biden did was good enough. If it were me I wouldn’t have stopped at your suggestion, I’d have sent in the US military and deposed Netanyahu personally citing Israel’s own laws, international criminal justice, and defense of an ally nation under duress.

              But unlike you I don’t make that an excuse to justify the starvation of hundreds of thousands.

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                But unlike you I don’t make that an excuse to justify the starvation of hundreds of thousands.

                How, in all of the interactions I’ve had with you, have I ever given the impression that I’m justifying Israel’s genocide against the Palestinians? I’ve been ruthlessly criticizing Biden and the Democratic party’s complicity in the genocide and I agree that he should have gone as far as to depose Netanyahu by force if it came to it. I only mentioned conditioning defense spending and sanctions because that’s all it would have taken, and the most that could be reasonably expected of a neoliberal ghoul like Biden.

                And I don’t know what you’re trying to communicate with that chart. Perhaps you’re trying to use the fact that Trump is far worse as some sort of gotcha, as if I don’t already know that.

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                  There is no higher level of justifying genocide than ignoring what Trump is doing and deflecting blame onto their only opposition.

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                  Uh, because you fight for the opposition, intensely waving and shouting that the lesser evil is just as bad?

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                    intensely waving and shouting that the lesser evil is just as bad?

                    I have explicitly stated otherwise, but no matter how many times I say it I’ll still be accused of equivocating the Democratic and Republican parties. Any criticism of Democrats for you centrist types is interpreted as support for the opposition.