• Cherry@piefed.social
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    3 days ago

    I agree with you. And in the components car.

    I am just saying those who are ignorant to driving or safety will always be the weakest link. And of course we have to consider competency.

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      3 days ago

      Skill is such a dumb take on ABS. You cannot adapt to every single situation by “driving according to the conditions”. An animal could jump in front of you in the dark. Unless you are literally driving at walking pace there is no chance ABS wouldn’t help you in such a situation if it is icy. Just because you have been lucky through life doesn’t take away the fact that there are some situations where safety systems will be better. ABS and ESP are significant safety improvements that come with little associated cost.

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        3 days ago

        It’s not THAT little associated cost. New ESP module for any 00s German car costs as much as the car itself at this point lol, around 2k.

        That said, manufacturers get them for less than that.

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            It’s also mandatory on new cars since 2011-2014 in Canada, US and EU so essentially that’s the system we’re talking about though? It’s also standard on basically anything made in Germany since the late 90s though obviously there have been improvements and the older ones aren’t AS great as the newer versions.

            ABS is also an important part of it. ABS itself doesn’t mandate ESP, that’s true. But the laws do.