cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/12546096

Gaza’s government media office accused the Israeli army of “committing a horrific massacre”. More than 70 people were killed and about 250 others wounded, it said in a statement on Thursday.

The citizens had congregated at al-Rashid Street, where aid trucks carrying flour were believed to be on the way. Al Jazeera verified footage showing the bodies of dozens of killed and wounded Palestinians being carried onto trucks as no ambulances could reach the area.

“I have been waiting since yesterday. At about 4.30 this morning, trucks started to come through. Once we approached the aid trucks, the Israeli tanks and warplanes started firing at us, as if it was a trap.

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    Looking at your post history, it seems clear you’re trying to make sure trump wins. This is all you do all day long, blame Democrats during election season, for something they aren’t in control of. Knowing that trump winning would be worse on this issue mysteriously having zero effect on your message.

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      I’m stopping Genocide in the most effective way possible, by tanking public support for it.

      It’s not November yet I’m not sure why you are already defending Joe Biden while he is still perfectly able to stop committing Genocide which would stop him from losing votes to people who oppose Genocide.

      Or are you hoping he keeps this Genocide going until November?

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        would stop him from losing votes to people who oppose Genocide.

        Who is this magical candidate who promises to run roughshod over 80+ years of US foreign policy and change the minds of almost every single Congresscritter (and their financial backers)?

        spoiler

        Absolutely fucking nobody, you’re just a GOP shill

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            Ah yes, a complete non-answer. Gotcha, you’re dismissed.

            Also, good job misrepresenting everything I said. When did I tell him not to stop? I’m just telling your idealist college kid brain that he’s simply not going to, whether we like it or not. Nobody is, and nobody realistically can except Bibi. Maybe redirect your efforts where they might actually count, toward Israeli citizens themselves, rather than lashing out where it absolutely will not matter. Assuming you actually give a fuck about Palestinians and are not simply a GOP shill, of course.

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              You’re the only one misrepresenting anything pretending that Biden can win while enabling Genocide.

              That is not going to happen. Pretending it will only delays Biden from doing anything and helps Trump.

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                Lol, okay. Live in your fantasy world. He can win if people like you stop encouraging apathy. But no US president will ever do what you want. You might get one that further enables Israel, though.

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                  We will stop encouraging apathy when Biden stops committing Genocide.

                  For both of us let’s hope that happens soon.

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        It’s been going on before any of us were born, and none of us is directly connected to these events historically, and even those that were have conflicting stories.

        Maybe this is all just geopolitical theatre, and we’re all amplifying the propaganda. Puppets who will never meet those who pull the strings.

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          We can stop the Genocide with a choice for Biden to stop Genocide or lose the election. If he still chooses Genocide then we need to put on an entirely different tinfoil hat.

          Trump won’t bend and neither will his base but the Democrats cannot ignore the progressive who will not be complicit in Genocide.

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        Yeah you’re certainly stopping genocide alright. Trump has vowed to stop this war, right? Because he totally fucking could anyhow!

        Also no one is defending Biden you liar.

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          Ah yes, political candidates are incapable of changing their views to better represent the desires of the people. Obviously the logical conclusion of criticizing Biden is that Trump wins and not that he changes his politics to be more electable to a clear majority the US population.

          Lmao

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          What Joe Biden is doing right now is something I would have only expected from Trump. And the defense of it is something I would have only expected from Republicans.

          You’re not voting for Joe Biden either while he’s still supporting Genocide right?

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            I’m voting strictly for Joe Biden without question because I’m not a fraud who wants Trump as a dictator in office.

            This in no way condones what ISRAEL is doing because I’m not willing to lie my ass off and act like Trump or anyone else would be any better at all.

            Good luck with your lie campaign though.

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              If the Genocide stops more power to you. Fully agree.

              If the Genocide will still be ongoing then you are in fact condoning israel. Empty words mean nothing.

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                You are handing the reigns to trump who we all know will be way worse.

                Thereby making it obvious that you know you’re a liar and don’t give a fuck about any Palestinian. You’re specifically supporting the opposite of what you’re obsessively claiming to want.

                Your Lemmy profile is truly fucked. Guessing it’s one of several accounts

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                  But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump But Trump

                  Your Lemmy profile is truly fucked. Guessing it’s one of several accounts

                  Do quote the part the “weird part of my profile”. Is it where I’m copy pasting the same unoriginal But Trump statement only one of us is doing that

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                    Nah you’re right, posting every hour for weeks about Biden being solely responsible for Israel’s actions is a very normal and healthy thing to do, and is not compulsive lying in the least

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        Because all of this noise that you’re adding to isn’t on a cooldown timer. People will carry their beliefs with them to November.

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      This guy isn’t a trump supporter and the fact that you’d blatantly lie about it says a lot about how twisted you are. Straight up trump style ad hominem gaslighting tactic.

      Instead of engaging critics, you Biden cultists just gang up on and bully anyone who criticizes your shitty candidates.

      The more I see comments like yours, the more I think about sitting this one out and watching you evil motherfuckers cry in November. It’s so pathetic how you’d rather attack people than own Biden’s foreign policy decisions. And you act like you’re sooo much better than the GOP while you pull the same exact shitty tactics they use.

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        You’re actually threatening to watch trump elected with glee so the idea that you care about Palestinians is laughably hollow.

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          Lmao says some fascist who cares about Palestinians soooo much you won’t even criticize Biden. You’re a fucking coward.

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            You “care” so much you’ll do everything you can to elect Trump. You’re a fraud and everyone knows it, even you

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        Boycott your votes for Biden until he stops this Genocide.

        Boycotting votes for Biden won’t do anything because the US government, regardless of what party is in power, is unanimously pro-Israel. Boycotting voting for Biden accomplishes nothing in the face of united MAGA voters.

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      Not voting for Biden is not a vote for Trump. Telling people they shouldn’t vote for someone actively supporting a genocide is not telling them to vote for Trump. If someone does not vote for Biden it is a failing of the Democratic party. A leftist who does not vote for Biden is not effectively giving a vote to Trump because they were never going to vote for either.

      The liberal fear of the Republican party and specifically Trump is what allows the Democratic party to move further and further right. The Democratic party will continue to move further and further right until it’s only campaign strategy is that they aren’t as bad as Republicans. It’s already happening

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        Not voting for Biden is not a vote for Trump

        Yes it is, full stop. I’m not having the idiotic argument with you so don’t bother.

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          Bullying people into voting for your candidate is not helping, and potentially could be hurting. Unless, maybe that’s your intention.

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            I don’t doubt you’re stupid. But you understand basic arithmetic. There must be a reason you pretend not to… Gee I wonder why

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              Maybe I’d understand if you explained it to me, how does not voting for Biden become a vote for Trump but not voting for Trump doesn’t become a vote for Biden? If I voted third party would this be a vote for both or against both? Could you write out this arithmetic for me?

              Genuinely curious, I don’t understand what you’re trying to to say. I’m not playing stupid

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                Any single vote lost for Biden allows the Trump voters (who don’t give 2 shits about genocide in Gaza) 1 less vote against their guy, which in turn makes it more likely Trump will win. First Past The Post is a winner take all thing. There’s no 2nd place in politics.

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                  Has Biden considered not supporting genocide then? He’d get a lot more votes that way. Politicians should bend to the will of the people not the other way around.

                  Besides Biden hasn’t “lost votes”, he just hasn’t done anything to earn them other than not be Trump. I wouldn’t count a vote he never had as a vote that he lost

                  See also:

                  Even if Biden does get elected it’s just adding a few more years to the clock

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                    Interesting how even when it’s spelled out you reject the premise and pivot back to your talking points, regardless of how true the original point is

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            Trump is polling higher than Biden, so no. Abstaining from voting is the same thing as voting for the more popular candidate. You need to learn how your country’s electoral system works.

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          No it isn’t, no matter how much you lie about it, the math doesn’t support you in the slightest. A third party vote is equivalent to not voting at all, which is not voting for Trump. Fucking arrogant liar.

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            Show me your plan to get 51% of the electorate to vote 3rd party and you’d be correct. 51% of the electorate will not vote 3rd party, so you are 100% incorrect. A vote for 3rd party, in reality, is throwing away your vote allowing the candidate who is polling higher a better chance at winning.

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              “Throwing your vote away” isn’t a vote for Trump, it’s equivalent to not voting at all, which is exactly what I fucking said. I don’t even know what the point of your comment is. Just arguing with me because you’re butthurt that I criticized your boy?