Valuable to whom? You? Me? The people who love them? Themselves?
Value measured how? By how much attention they get? By how much money/power they have? By how much “good” they’ve done for others (which is a whole different can of worms--defining and measuring “good”)? By how many other people love or care for them?
Our societies do rank people by value, using a wide array of criteria. We don’t agree on which criteria is best, or correct, though.
Ideally, we should consider all people equally valuable generally, if you can get to that place in you heart, then no other opinion matters. Of course, to each of us some people are going to be more valuable than others. My son and myself are equally the two most important people to me. I rank everyone else equally valuable but less important to me personally, and I try to view them that way.
I’m following your rule that we’re not including serial killers, etc.
The only people, generally I rank as useless are billionaires. Every single one of them could disappear right now. The world would be a much better place and no one would miss them. No one, not even their families. We’ve watched this play out recently--Charlie Kirk’s wife, Trumps entire family clearly despises him while being no better themselves, Musk’s kids all hate him, etc.
Like, I think at least…at the time it was about moral value. Like, the permanent kind. I specifically am thinking about more subtle stuff. Like for example: my co-workers sound almost outraged when I say I want to continue education, because I should have studied earlier, and so they think I deserve to spend my life sweating and bleeding.
There’s no “redemption” here, no meritocracy, no ladder.
So I noticed that there seems to be these unwritten rules between people that go against the official rules of society. Like if they believe someone was hard working early in life, they outright treat them better and let them get away with more shit. Others effort and suffering is put down, as if it matters less.
See what I mean?
So how common do you think this is? And what is your personal opinion if who, if anyone, should be worth less? (I am more inclined towards seeing people as worth more, not less. With the exception of extremely bad people).
Valuable to whom? You? Me? The people who love them? Themselves?
Value measured how? By how much attention they get? By how much money/power they have? By how much “good” they’ve done for others (which is a whole different can of worms--defining and measuring “good”)? By how many other people love or care for them?
Our societies do rank people by value, using a wide array of criteria. We don’t agree on which criteria is best, or correct, though.
Ideally, we should consider all people equally valuable generally, if you can get to that place in you heart, then no other opinion matters. Of course, to each of us some people are going to be more valuable than others. My son and myself are equally the two most important people to me. I rank everyone else equally valuable but less important to me personally, and I try to view them that way.
I’m following your rule that we’re not including serial killers, etc.
The only people, generally I rank as useless are billionaires. Every single one of them could disappear right now. The world would be a much better place and no one would miss them. No one, not even their families. We’ve watched this play out recently--Charlie Kirk’s wife, Trumps entire family clearly despises him while being no better themselves, Musk’s kids all hate him, etc.
Like, I think at least…at the time it was about moral value. Like, the permanent kind. I specifically am thinking about more subtle stuff. Like for example: my co-workers sound almost outraged when I say I want to continue education, because I should have studied earlier, and so they think I deserve to spend my life sweating and bleeding.
There’s no “redemption” here, no meritocracy, no ladder.
So I noticed that there seems to be these unwritten rules between people that go against the official rules of society. Like if they believe someone was hard working early in life, they outright treat them better and let them get away with more shit. Others effort and suffering is put down, as if it matters less.
See what I mean?
So how common do you think this is? And what is your personal opinion if who, if anyone, should be worth less? (I am more inclined towards seeing people as worth more, not less. With the exception of extremely bad people).